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Should college pitchers be pitching in the fall?
Posted on 2/16/19 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 2/16/19 at 3:40 pm
I wonder about the toll this takes, especially on college freshman pitchers.
Most of them started throwing around Nov of their senior year of high school. They ramp up through Dec and Jan, and start scrimmages/jamborees in early Feb. Then they really don't stop until late July.
Then they get to college campus in Aug and begin fall baseball in Sept, ending in early Nov. They get, what, 7 weeks of rest before they're throwing again in early Jan to be ready for opening day (mid-Feb).
A 6-week break between summer and fall ball, and a 7-week break between fall and spring doesn't seem like enough, especially for an 18 year-old kid who's still developing physically. I believe most MLB pitchers take 3 months off from throwing as soon as their seasons end.
Would it be better to take those HS aces, and, knowing they've probably thrown a lot of pitches in HS, use that freshman year fall to hit the weights, get on a nutrition program, run, do PFP's, watch video, and go over the mental game?
Most of them started throwing around Nov of their senior year of high school. They ramp up through Dec and Jan, and start scrimmages/jamborees in early Feb. Then they really don't stop until late July.
Then they get to college campus in Aug and begin fall baseball in Sept, ending in early Nov. They get, what, 7 weeks of rest before they're throwing again in early Jan to be ready for opening day (mid-Feb).
A 6-week break between summer and fall ball, and a 7-week break between fall and spring doesn't seem like enough, especially for an 18 year-old kid who's still developing physically. I believe most MLB pitchers take 3 months off from throwing as soon as their seasons end.
Would it be better to take those HS aces, and, knowing they've probably thrown a lot of pitches in HS, use that freshman year fall to hit the weights, get on a nutrition program, run, do PFP's, watch video, and go over the mental game?
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Posted on 2/16/19 at 4:06 pm to RidiculousHype
They don't throw every day.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 4:21 pm to RidiculousHype
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Would it be better to take those HS aces, and, knowing they've probably thrown a lot of pitches in HS, use that freshman year fall to hit the weights, get on a nutrition program, run, do PFP's, watch video, and go over the mental game?
Yeah they should consider all of those things. I'm sure they don't cover that at all during the fall. Pretty transcendent idea.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 4:38 pm to RidiculousHype
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Then they really don't stop until late July.
The LHSAA State championship was like May 11th last year. Why is a senior that is signed by a college pitching in late July?
Posted on 2/16/19 at 4:41 pm to RidiculousHype
Time to get you in front of the ncaa with these revolutionary ideas. You will change the game with these new and fresh ideas no one has ever considered or implemented 
Posted on 2/16/19 at 5:14 pm to RidiculousHype
The science on pitchers and injuries is still insanely undecided. While obviously you shouldn't be going full bore every single day, it's also pretty nuts to say they should just take 3 months off from pitching during the year too
Posted on 2/16/19 at 7:15 pm to RidiculousHype
No, not all. I'm pretty sure Ben McDonald would agree that college coaches ruin arms.
Posted on 2/16/19 at 9:45 pm to RidiculousHype
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Should college pitchers be pitching in the fall?
It would make intrasquad scrimmages interesting if they didn't ...
Posted on 2/16/19 at 11:50 pm to RidiculousHype
Sup Brayden.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:15 pm to RidiculousHype
LSU is the only college team I follow - are other teams seeing the kind of arm injuries to their pitchers like LSU is?
Not that eliminating fall pitching is the answer, but things really can't get much worse than they are now. Are any college teams out there experimenting with less (or no) fall pitching for their pitchers? I'd love to see if the outcomes improve.
Not that eliminating fall pitching is the answer, but things really can't get much worse than they are now. Are any college teams out there experimenting with less (or no) fall pitching for their pitchers? I'd love to see if the outcomes improve.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:24 pm to RidiculousHype
Nobody cares on School side
NCAA baseball coaches only care about the W's. It's why you see guys grueling thru 140 pitches in 95 degree weather.
Guys who have thrown a ton of innings, being used and abused in regional and super regional.
And frick MLB, just like NFL, they get free minor league system to develop kids.
It's always buyers beware on College Pitchers, especially ones who are into their 3rd or 4th year in ncaa of pitching.
NCAA baseball coaches only care about the W's. It's why you see guys grueling thru 140 pitches in 95 degree weather.
Guys who have thrown a ton of innings, being used and abused in regional and super regional.
And frick MLB, just like NFL, they get free minor league system to develop kids.
It's always buyers beware on College Pitchers, especially ones who are into their 3rd or 4th year in ncaa of pitching.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:56 pm to RidiculousHype
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Then they get to college campus in Aug and begin fall baseball in Sept, ending in early Nov. They get, what, 7 weeks of rest before they're throwing again in early Jan to be ready for opening day (mid-Feb).
A 6-week break between summer and fall ball, and a 7-week break between fall and spring doesn't seem like enough, especially for an 18 year-old kid who's still developing physically. I believe most MLB pitchers take 3 months off from throwing as soon as their seasons end.
most college pitchers are shut down these days during the summer. LSU, for instance, only had 3 pitchers throw last summer, and only 1 of them threw more than like 10 innings over the course of the summer. A summer league in Florida actually had to cancel their season last year because they didn't have enough pitchers to fill out the rosters. Bottom line, it's become more and more of a common practice for college pitchers to be shut down for the summer until fall ball starts (many not even pitching in the fall either). And if they do pitch, they don't pitch much.
The culprit is travel ball and showcases when these guys are still young and developing physically. That and such an emphasis being placed on throwing hard. Year round baseball starting at 11-12 years old is a recipe for disaster.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 4/26/19 at 12:59 pm to RidiculousHype
I think weights are a problem as well. Most pitchers build up their accelerator muscles more so than their deceleration muscles in their throwing arm because they think it will make them throw harder. This throws the balance off and end up with arm problems because the decels aren’t strong enough to put up with the abuse. Even with an experienced trainer I think more bad things happen then good.
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