- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Americans Who Were Detained After Speaking Spanish In Montana Sue U.S. Border Patrol
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:40 pm to jbond
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:40 pm to jbond
quote:
When one of the women asked whether they were being detained "because of our profiles," O'Neal replied, "No, it has nothing to do with that. It's the fact that it has to do with you guys speaking Spanish in the store, in a state where it's predominantly English-speaking, OK?"
Yikes
3
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:42 pm to jcaz
quote:They did. He still took them to his squad car and detained them so he can call into dispatch for some sort of verification.
Just show your I.D. and make him feel stupid. Geeze.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:43 pm to Jorts R Us
quote:He said that knowing full well that they were recording him. You would think that would have given him pause, but no.
Yikes
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:44 pm to Jorts R Us
quote:
When one of the women asked whether they were being detained "because of our profiles," O'Neal replied, "No, it has nothing to do with that. It's the fact that it has to do with you guys speaking Spanish in the store, in a state where it's predominantly English-speaking, OK?" Yikes
In the video the woman never asks why or if they are being detained..she asks why they were asked for ID.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:45 pm to Jorts R Us
quote:
Yikes
I agree. Where do they get off asking a question like that?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:45 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
They did. He still took them to his squad car and detained them so he can call into dispatch for some sort of verification.
He didn’t take them to his squad car..they walked or rather slid their feet over to it of their own free will..did you even watch the video?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:50 pm to Tiger4Liberty
To me, this isn't even being detained. It was being questioned. I've been stopped and questioned a few times and I just answer the questions and be on my merry way. No big deal.
Now, I was detained in Hong Kong airport for about 8 hours. Questioned and released. Of course, I forgot about the 9MM magazine (empty) that I had in one of my bags so understood that one as well.
Now, I was detained in Hong Kong airport for about 8 hours. Questioned and released. Of course, I forgot about the 9MM magazine (empty) that I had in one of my bags so understood that one as well.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:52 pm to jcaz
quote:If a cop wants my ID for no apparent reason when I am walking in a parking lot, it will go very very well for me.
Try to refuse to show a cop your ID. Let me know how that goes
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:54 pm to League Champs
quote:
take it that you don't know that Havre, MT is within 10 miles of the US border? In fact, the first "town" that you would get to if you illegally crossed the border in that area. And the very reason that a border patrol agent would be in that community, checking for illegals
To be fair CBP is allowed to verify immigration status and detain for a reasonable amount of time... 40 minutes is not reasonable.
Had they not been citizens you would have a point.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:55 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:Dawgfanman, come on. The guy had their license at that point.
or rather slid their feet over to it of their own free will
Slid their feet over to it?
Not cool.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:55 pm to Dawgfanman
No, not at all
Didn’t see the video
Didn’t see the video
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:55 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:
they walked or rather slid their feet over to it of their own free will
Under color of the law is not under free will.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 4:58 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
Profiling works. Deal with it
Its depressing to think that many people have died for rights you dont think they have.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:00 pm to jcaz
quote:
Try to refuse to show a cop your ID. Let me know how that goes
“Am I being detained or am I free to go?” This will either result in you not having to show ID or you being told you are detained. If you are detained and they didn’t have reasonable suspicion to do so, it’ll make the lawsuit easy. This isn’t difficult. More fun is to refuse to show your receipt when leaving a store that checks. Who the frick do they think they are to have the right to rifle through my groceries? They stopped being their groceries when I paid for them. They want to look at them now, they can pay me.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:06 pm to RazorBroncs
After watching the video I don't see a problem with the officer's behavior, he explained it to them very carefully and reasonably. The "40 minutes" HAS to be extremely exaggerated.
To be honest, their accents are UNUSUALLY thick for being born in the US and would raise my suspicion at first as well. This is a BP agent, whose job it is to find illegal aliens with often fake documents. Not to mention this is somewhere that Hispanics are uncommon.
I wouldn't have questioned them long enough to last 40 minutes or anything, but the thickness of their accents would give me pause against the claim of being born in the US. I've been in a similar situation as this officer and can say that it's very hard to handle it any better than he did.
The question still remains if he should've ever asked them for ID to begin with, but his actions after that aren't anything to be upset about.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:06 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Slid their feet over to it?
Watch the video. I hate that shite. My own kids do it on the hardwoods and it bugs the shite out of me.
Look, the guy was wrong but I’m a white male and same shite has happens to me. They didn’t do a damn NPR story and I didn’t get a fat check from my fellow citizens. People need to learn to stand up for their rights and deal with cops like they would any other human. I wouldn’t have given that guy my ID. If he has reason to need it he should be patting me down and taking it.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:06 pm to jbond
quote:
"We love racial profiling don't we folks?!
Would you feel better if we used a baseball term like Sabremetrics?
Criminalmetrics.
Because they're just using stats...and real world experience.
Instead of WAR, a cop can look at someone driving in a low-rider, with a bandana on and neck tat and calculate POP, probability of prison.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:13 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:I did
Watch the video.
It pissed me off.
Context is the only remaining question.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:17 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
I did It pissed me off.
Then go ahead and send them whatever they are trying to take out of our pockets via the courts. You probably stay pissed off.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 5:19 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:If it were you getting singled out, I'd feel the same way. Would you?
Then go ahead and send them whatever they are trying to take out of our pockets via the courts. You probably stay pissed off.
Page 4 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News