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re: For those that honestly believe this is a conspiracy
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:55 am to WhoDatNC
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:55 am to WhoDatNC
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It’s no conspiracy. It’s simply the worse no call in sports history.
but what did the ref see?
How is it a no call when 10000/10000 people would agree on the call, what did the ref see that we didn't?
Where is the accountability?
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:55 am to theunknownknight
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You don’t understand ozcam’s razor.
The simplest explanation to you is that there is a grand conspiracy between the NFL and the officials to propel the Rams to a Super Bowl, and they waited until this exact point to blow a call to do so? It's silly.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:56 am to UpToPar
The whole world saw it. You could close your eyes and hear the helmet to helmet, at the very least. It really makes me sick. Not one but TWO guys looking right at it!! You have to call that. I’ll never get over it. I love the Saints. They worked their arse off all year and get robbed. Disgusting.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:57 am to UpToPar
So you think the most simple and likely explanation is two allstar refs that call games for a living both missed a call that everyone else watching, including the DB that got up not celebrating and looking for the flag, saw?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:57 am to UpToPar
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The simplest explanation to you is that there is a grand conspiracy between the NFL and the officials to propel the Rams to a Super Bowl, and they waited until this exact point to blow a call to do so? It's silly.
Yes. A conspiracy/systematic bias is the simplest explanation why at least 30 people who had the power to call a conference and throw a late flag did not do so.
Are you suggesting that the ENTIRE referee crew AND the league office didn’t see the play while 100% of the rest of the world did not?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 8:58 am to theunknownknight
It’s entertainment not sport. They can make whatever ridiculous calls they want - just like Wrestling,
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:00 am to LNCHBOX
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So you think the most simple and likely explanation is two allstar refs that call games for a living both missed a call that everyone else watching, including the DB that got up not celebrating and looking for the flag, saw?
Yes. The blown call was bad, but it looks much worse because of the situation and what was at stake. There are egregious missed flags all the time. It happens. It sucked it happened.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:00 am to UpToPar
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Yes
Sorry, that's retarded.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:01 am to theunknownknight
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Yes. A conspiracy/systematic bias is the simplest explanation why at least 30 people who had the power to call a conference and throw a late flag did not do so.
There are two, maybe three officials depending on where the back judge was, who could have thrown a flag there. That's it. Who are the 30 people that have the power to call a conference and throw a flag?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:02 am to UpToPar
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UpToPar
right, but what did the ref see to not throw the flag?
literally a million out of a million people see the pass interference but he didnt?
So what did he see not to throw it?
Thats absurd not to throw it, so what else did he see?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:02 am to UpToPar
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The simplest explanation to you is that there is a grand conspiracy between the NFL and the officials to propel the Rams to a Super Bowl, and they waited until this exact point to blow a call to do so? It's silly.
Say two teams are fairly even. You can even say that they played earlier in the year and in the 4th quarter it was tied around 35-35 kind of even.
Now you nudge one team forward bit by bit throughout the game. Ignore pass interference on the first two drives by the favorable team. Ignore an even worse pass interference in the 4th quarter when the favorable team still hasn't gotten it done and the unfavorable team is close to FG range to extend the lead. Suddenly decide that holding exists when that unfavorable team is back near FG range despite the help given to kill the last drive. Ignore the most obvious early and high hit on a defenseless WR with the pass in the air when you know any defensive penalty would end the game.
Very simple, all under the guise of "letting them play". It's not and never can be a direct handing of a game to one team, but they sure as frick did everything they could to guarantee the Rams had a shot at the very end of the game. If Z misses the kick in regulation, I don't think they would have suddenly made up a penalty to give him another shot. But he only had the chance to begin with because the officials made it so.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:02 am to UpToPar
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Who are the 30 people that have the power to call a conference and throw a flag?
The people in the head office who can call into the crew. Did you not know this was possible?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:02 am to UpToPar
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There are two, maybe three officials depending on where the back judge was, who could have thrown a flag there. That's it. Who are the 30 people that have the power to call a conference and throw a flag?
right but what else did they see not to throw it?
the entire planet sees PI, what is their explanation to not throw it?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:03 am to Katy Tiger
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It’s entertainment not sport. They can make whatever ridiculous calls they want - just like Wrestling
This x 1000
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:03 am to UpToPar
I do not think that it is/was a league wide conspiracy to get the Rams into the championship game. Sure it helps the league for L.A. to be successful, but it wasn't like the Rams were this Cinderella team that came out of nowhere.
However, I do believe that there are refs on the take in every sport and it is naive to think otherwise. Too much money involved with the outcomes of games. Whether that was a part of the outcome of the Saints/Rams game, I have no idea. Either way, the refs involved are too incompetent to do their job correctly or dirty. There is no other reasonable explanation.
However, I do believe that there are refs on the take in every sport and it is naive to think otherwise. Too much money involved with the outcomes of games. Whether that was a part of the outcome of the Saints/Rams game, I have no idea. Either way, the refs involved are too incompetent to do their job correctly or dirty. There is no other reasonable explanation.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:03 am to theunknownknight
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The people in the head office who can call into the crew. Did you not know this was possible?
They can call into the crew and ask that a PI flag be thrown?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:06 am to UpToPar
The evidence that it was an intentional act of omission is right there before everybody's eyes.
You want me to disbelieve what my eyes see?
You want me to disbelieve what my eyes see?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:06 am to UpToPar
They can call in and indicate a conference is needed before the next play to ensure the correct call was made.
Which obviously didn’t happen.
Which obviously didn’t happen.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:06 am to UpToPar
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Yes. The blown call
How is it a blown call?
the entire planet saw PI, this dude saw the same play, to say he blew the call would mean that he didnt see the play.
Its not a blown call,
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:07 am to CBandits82
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but what did the ref see?
How is it a no call when 10000/10000 people would agree on the call, what did the ref see that we didn't?
My guess is they both saw it and thought it was probably pass interference, but each also saw the other in position to make the call, and both cowered in the moment and deferred to the other guy to make such a huge call. I'm betting if one of them had flagged it, we'd have seen all 7 refs throw a flag, but none had the balls to be the first to act.
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