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Expanded playoff wont mean better games

Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:12 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:12 pm
Ivan Maisel

Dont understand why so many people are crying for expansion. That just means Alabama is in automatically every year regardless of how the season plays out. Seems to me people would rather have the chance of them losing a game and being left out with the system as it is. It's a dumb idea.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:14 pm to
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Dont understand why so many people are crying for expansion.


i don't know, it seems like there was a lot more of it last year.

this year was so meh that I think pretty much everyone knew who is was going to get in.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:14 pm to
Eye test sucks! Must be conference champions! Pick on resume only!

> Committee picks straight on resume

These games sucked! We need more eye test teams and non conference champions!
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 6:15 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30223 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:24 pm to
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Dont understand why so many people are crying for expansion


It's more football.

Not to mention, many argued that UGA should have been in the playoff as one of the best four. We saw what happened last night.

Upsets happen. But they happen much less frequently when you only have 4 teams.

March Madness is awesome and so is the NCAA baseball tournament.

You know what sucks? The four team playoff.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 6:34 pm to
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March Madness is awesome and so is the NCAA baseball tournament.


It's the single worst way to crown a 'champion' in all of sports.

A single elimination tournament in a high variance sport involving 68 teams? Asinine.

It exists solely because of office pools and gambling and shite. Not because it's a good system.

College basketball has the worst regular season in all of sports because of its ridiculous postseason. Every match up between top 10 teams is almost completely meaningless. Both teams are making the tournament, who cares, maybe if you win a few of them you get a #1 seed instead of a #2.

The ironic thing is, despite college football historically having the most bizarre and maddening system for crowning their champion, it on average produces a higher quality champion than almost every other major sport.
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 7:12 pm
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 7:18 pm to
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Dont understand why so many people are crying for expansion


Because we're not short sighted
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 7:26 pm to
They've wanted to expand March Madness to 128... First thing they talk about is first 4 out and who got snubbed. Personally I wish it was best of 3 series starting with the Sweet 16
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66158 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 7:43 pm to
I would rather conference championships meaning more.

I find it funny you cocky Alabama fans continue to question why expand it..

It’s almost as if you don’t want more games. Y’all so good so why you fighting this fight? If you scared say you scared
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56473 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 8:37 pm to
No one should want expansion

We can’t find four worthy teams now
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56473 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 8:44 pm to
Bama dominance is why we don’t need it now

What does them beating UCF 55-7 do?

Oh then they get to beat Oklahoma or Georgia again.

Once LSU exposed Georgia the two teams that deserved to play for it were Clemson and Bama
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 8:51 pm to
Smart people know expansion is dumb

Unfortunately dumb people usually get thier way
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20797 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 8:53 pm to
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Not to mention, many argued that UGA should have been in the playoff as one of the best four. We saw what happened last night.


Yeah, they played in the Sugar Bowl because they didn’t make the 4 team playoff.
Posted by bradwieser
Cornell Fan
Member since May 2008
10555 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 9:07 pm to
Playoffs?
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 9:16 am
Posted by forever lsu30
Member since Nov 2005
3954 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 9:43 pm to
A double elimination at the point of the Elite 8 after the 64/32/16 would be the way to go, IMO.
Would quasi-mirror NCAA baseball.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 9:58 pm to
Expansion is not going to get people to stop complaining about how unfair things are. They'll want to go to 12, then 16. It'll never stop.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:00 pm to
If the playoff expanded, it would still be Clemson and bama. The only three teams who possibly could have beaten bama this year already had their chances. LSU, Georgia and Oklahoma.
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
2897 posts
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:01 pm to
Why are Bama fans so insecure?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 5:11 am to
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Because we're not short sighted


Actually, that's exactly what saying that more teams are needed with a sample size of 5 years is. Especially when matching up the 2 best teams has happened without fail to this point.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4508 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 5:51 am to
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 6:39 am
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59267 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 6:50 am to
Adding another round definitely favors Bama, not only because of the mulligan thing, but because their depth can survive those 3 tough games. Be almost impossible for the UCFs of the world—who expansion is partly trying to placate—to win 3 of these games in a row. They may pull off a 1st round upset, but they just wouldn’t have enough to win 2 more.

That said, the decision shouldn’t be reactionary to what Bama is doing right now. They are a machine the likes of which college football has never nor likely will ever see again. An aborration. I used to be really against playoff expansion—because I truly believe college football has the greatest regular season of any of the major sports. “Every game matters” was what I always said.

But they really don’t. Most games have very little bearing on conference and national championships. Now, there are a few games that mean “everything,” and that’s exciting. The LSU-Bama(from 6-7years ago), LSU-Florida, Iron Bowl, Florida-Georgia,Michigan-Ohio State, Texas-OU, Notre Dame-USC, etc...games wont mean “everything” anymore. But many more games will mean “something.” That’s a trade Im willing to make, providing the top seeds get homefield in the quarters. There has to be a reward for going 12-0 as opposed to 9-3. I had always clamored for a 6-team playoff, with the top 2 seeds getting byes, but that may be too big of an advantage and really doesn’t address the issue of inclusion.

I think conference championships should matter. There is—or used to be until recently—an innate value in winning your conference. The setup we have now has rendered them almost meaningless save for using the CCGames as de facto quarterfinals. So, it’s gotta be P5 conference champs, 2 at larges, and the highest “ranked” G5 conference champ. You’d have to use a pre-determined BCS type formula for that “ranking.” The committee can stick around for seeding and trying to eliminate re-matches in the 1st round. Yeah, you may get a 3-loss 2001 LSU in there every now and then. But that’s something I think we should be able to live with. And home field in the quarters is such a big advantage that I don’t think you’d have to worry about teams resting players for fear of losing one of those top 4 spots.
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