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re: Brady says he will play beyond 2019
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:51 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:51 pm to BigBrod81
His name was Garoppolo, and Brady won the power struggle.
Granted Kraft was put in a shite spot, but you don't go from getting first round offers (potentially with other picks) to settling for a second rounder near the deadline.
Granted Kraft was put in a shite spot, but you don't go from getting first round offers (potentially with other picks) to settling for a second rounder near the deadline.
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:21 pm to bonethug0180
Oh I'm very aware of the behind the scenes story & Belichick trading Garoppolo for beans to spite Kraft.
Belichick comes from the Bill Walsh philosophy that you get rid of a player before he begins his decline. A loyal Robert Kraft was having none of that. Belichick banning Brady's trainer from team facilities was in preparation of moving on from Brady because several other Patriot players used that guy as a trainer as well. Kraft put a stop to all of that which leaves the Patriots unprepared for when Brady play really drops.
The question becomes then, does Belichick just walk away if he feels Brady can no longer carry the team? Or does he try to find another QB who can keep them competitive for championships?
Belichick comes from the Bill Walsh philosophy that you get rid of a player before he begins his decline. A loyal Robert Kraft was having none of that. Belichick banning Brady's trainer from team facilities was in preparation of moving on from Brady because several other Patriot players used that guy as a trainer as well. Kraft put a stop to all of that which leaves the Patriots unprepared for when Brady play really drops.
The question becomes then, does Belichick just walk away if he feels Brady can no longer carry the team? Or does he try to find another QB who can keep them competitive for championships?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:50 pm to burke985
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What does this mean for drew I think Brady is just pissed and record chasing. Thoughts?
Lol the man is GOAT.. I think he's title chasing. No one cares about records. Lol hick
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:51 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:lol shut up. You know TB12 the GOAT
Doesn't mean anything for Drew IMO. For someone who has accomplished so much I have never seen a set of fans of that player that are so insecure. All that crap about the "GOAT" is bull shite. You can't separate players when they reach that level of success. There are so many variables and reasons why they got that far that you can't really compare. I think when they get to that point you just saying they are all great. Who is to say who is better. Some will say well Brady has 5 super bowls and Drew only has 1. But they are only one player. Who had the better supporting cast? Receivers, Line, Defense? Who played in a stronger division? pick one. Who is to say that Montana wasn't better than either of them? Then you have the factor of what era a player played in and how rules changes effected his wins or stats. Point is no one really knows who the best is.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:56 pm to BigBrod81
Depends on how long Brady can legit keep playing, and if Belichek still feels the need to prove he can do it without him at that point.
Knowing the Pats, he'll flip some picks to move back and get more picks, flip those for higher picks, and the trade for a QB if he can't find one in the draft or FA.
Knowing the Pats, he'll flip some picks to move back and get more picks, flip those for higher picks, and the trade for a QB if he can't find one in the draft or FA.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:19 pm to bonethug0180
That's usually how Belichick operates. 
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:27 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Some will say well Brady has 5 super bowls and Drew only has 1. But they are only one player. Who had the better supporting cast? Receivers, Line, Defense? Who played in a stronger division?
Brady has done WAY more than just those 5 Super Bowls. And as far as “supporting cast,” the patriots have only had a small handful of superstars during Brady’s tenure. Brady has been the one constant during these historic years.
I am black and gold through and through, but Brady is the true GOAT
Records owned by Brady
Regular season wins by a starting quarterback (199)
Most touchdowns thrown to different receivers (71)
Division titles (15)
Playoff games started (37)
Playoff wins (27)
Playoff touchdown passes (71)
Playoff passing yards (10,226)
Super Bowl appearances (8)
Super Bowl wins (5)
Super Bowl MVPs (4)
Super Bowl touchdown passes (18)
Super Bowl passing yards (2,576)
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:37 pm to Fourteen28
Team game. Brady has had a consistently higher defense than any other high level QB this generation, and has had the luxury in playing in the consistently worst division in football.
He's only made the SB the year's the Pats had a top 10 defense (iirc). He's also blown the SB and other playoff runs with pretty good defenses.
People say Brady but it has been a combination of Brady AND Belichek's defenses that have kept the Pats competitive. Neither would be nearly as good without the other.
He's only made the SB the year's the Pats had a top 10 defense (iirc). He's also blown the SB and other playoff runs with pretty good defenses.
People say Brady but it has been a combination of Brady AND Belichek's defenses that have kept the Pats competitive. Neither would be nearly as good without the other.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:40 pm to bonethug0180
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Team game.
So by this logic, no player can ever be the GOAT at his position because all of their successes are dependent on other people.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:47 pm to Fourteen28
No, you can still judge most individual players based on stats (though they don't tell the whole story), but wins and losses (which is a big part of Brady's argument) is a team stat.
Individually Brady is definitely one of the best ever, but he's not the GoaT because of the wins and SBs. He's only part of that equation (Belichek's defenses being a HUGE part of that also).
He's definitely in conversation of being the GoaT because his stats also line up with that. But there are other players that are in the conversation, despite what idiots that say it's clearly Brady think.
Individually Brady is definitely one of the best ever, but he's not the GoaT because of the wins and SBs. He's only part of that equation (Belichek's defenses being a HUGE part of that also).
He's definitely in conversation of being the GoaT because his stats also line up with that. But there are other players that are in the conversation, despite what idiots that say it's clearly Brady think.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:44 pm to Godfather1
Darren Howard was solid
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:53 am to burke985
Posted on 12/30/18 at 11:37 am to tss22h8
It was pretty funny how, much like the year we won where everyone assumed Manning was getting his second, everyone was giving Brady his 6th.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 11:52 am to bonethug0180
Man, you put together a really good logical & rational post yet someone still downvoted you. 
I really don't understand some of these idiot posters line of thinking most times.
I really don't understand some of these idiot posters line of thinking most times.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 11:58 am to BigBrod81
Used to it. And while it may seem rational to some, I can see how others (the people who say Brady is the GoaT no matter what) can see it as irrational.
It comes with the territory on speaking in divisive arguments.
I see my comment on Dianna Russini in that other thread was pretty much universally agreed upon, however. I was a little surprised by that.
It comes with the territory on speaking in divisive arguments.
I see my comment on Dianna Russini in that other thread was pretty much universally agreed upon, however. I was a little surprised by that.
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