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re: Public School Problems...
Posted on 12/14/18 at 8:14 am to deeprig9
Posted on 12/14/18 at 8:14 am to deeprig9
Schools are out of control, if the people only knew all the BS that they spend money on. The media will never report it though, because THE MEDIA is part of the problem, they get their marching orders from corporate. 
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:19 am to the808bass
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How do you teach math? Drill and practice.
What do they want to not do to teach math? Drill and practice.
How do you teach reading? Phonics. Or more explicitly, phonemic awareness.
What do they not want to teach? Phonemic awareness.
It's always obvious which kids have parents who use these methods at home. They're always doing better than their peers.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:20 am to Walkthedawg
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Schools are out of control, if the people only knew all the BS that they spend money on. The media will never report it though, because THE MEDIA is part of the problem, they get their marching orders from corporate.
Yep. Schools acting like they need "more money" is the biggest laugh ever. They have to house it in "raises for teachers who are underpaid" even though teachers are absolutely not underpaid. In Alabama, they're overpaid, and are set for life if they teach for 20 years.
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:25 am to ChineseBandit58
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I hope you give thanks to your God every day for your parents.
I promise you, I do this every day, no joke
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Say 'thank you' from me to your dad. I'd love to buy him a beer!!!
It'd have to be a root beer, as he doesn't drink (another aspect of life at which he's better than me
), but I'll pass the word along when I see him later this month! My parents truly are the baseline for my own grounded approach to life. I shudder to think how I might have ended up without their influence. I see examples of it in my peers and it's eye-opening.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 9:27 am to imjustafatkid
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They have to house it in "raises for teachers who are underpaid" even though teachers are absolutely not underpaid. In Alabama, they're overpaid,
We want the best educators for our kids, but when taxes are involved we scream and yell that they are overpaid and they aren't any good and all that. But you run down to your local big corporation and go to hire someone and you have to be competitive and get the best talent you can. When the CEO gets a giant pay raise, even though stock price and dividends have been stagnant, everyone says you have to pay to attract and keep the top talent.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:25 am to bmy
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bmy
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The african american kids? They tend to do just fine when given the same access to resources
We are all waiting for you to return and provide insight as to why you made this statement. I mean, we KNOW why, we just want to hear you say it.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:28 am to imjustafatkid
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It's always obvious which kids have parents who use these methods at home. They're always doing better than their peers.
When my oldest was in her early school years, teachers were actually trying to PREVENT her from using phonics.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:30 am to wareaglepete
quote:No we don't. If we did, we wouldn't set up so many road blocks to becoming a teacher.
We want the best educators for our kids
When you have a system that says that Bill Gates isn't qualified to teach Business in HS, your local brain surgeon isn't qualified to teach biology there and Thomas Sowell isn't qualified to teach economics........you have a fricked system.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:36 am to upgrayedd
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teachers are undergoing professional development to learn how to “connect with” students from low-income and minority families,
The best way to communicate with these students is by speaking to them in rhyming couplets. Johnny Cochran knew this:
"If the glove don't fit
You must acquit."
This post was edited on 12/14/18 at 11:48 am
Posted on 12/14/18 at 10:55 am to gthog61
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The "party of science" has virtually outlawed the discussion of Bell curves so that probably explains your ignorance.
Bingo. Party of science...
Its like this, you can train certain breeds of dogs to lead the blind, hunt, do tricks, and other breeds you can't teach anything. It is purely scientific, and until we accept centuries of fact, we are going to destroy our foreheads smashing them against the wall.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:02 am to JCdawg
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other breeds you can't teach anything.
Uh, I think you just offended Dalmatians and Afghan Hounds.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:03 am to UGATiger26
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There is a reason that Watkinsville has been exploding in size over the past 15 or so years.
People want to live "in Athens" but not in Athens-Clarke County.
Oconee County's public schools are MUCH better.
I was recently home shopping in the area. On the county line, the houses on one side of the street are 150% more expensive per square ft than on the other side.
Not even exaggerating.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:07 am to ShortyRob
Teaching degrees and certifications are massive roadblocks to actually improving education
A 45 year old engineer has a harder time trying to get into a public school to teach math than some ditzy teaching major who took a few math classes in college.
A 45 year old engineer has a harder time trying to get into a public school to teach math than some ditzy teaching major who took a few math classes in college.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:17 am to NIH
quote:I actually wanted to teach when I got out of the military. I wouldn't have made a ton, but, the combination of a teacher's salary plus my retirement check would have made me fine. And, I would have just loved doing it.
A 45 year old engineer has a harder time trying to get into a public school to teach math than some ditzy teaching major who took a few math classes in college.
I had a graduate degree(a real one LOL)......yet, when I look in to doing it, it was pretty much going to result in my spending the amount of money it would take to get another graduate degree just to be allowed to fricking teach elementary school. So, here I am having multiple math heavy graduate courses, and they want me to take 30+ credit hours to be allowed to teach a 4th grader to multiply!
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:23 am to ShortyRob
It’s a racket. Between the useless teaching majors, the certifications that cost thousands, etc it all just drives away qualified people from teaching
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:25 am to NIH
quote:Another problem with teaching as a profession is that moving up in terms of salary is 100% driven by time teaching.
It’s a racket. Between the useless teaching majors, the certifications that cost thousands, etc it all just drives away qualified people from teaching
Not being good at it, just time. If your superstar teacher in 3rd grade has 4 years of teaching time, they're making less than the teacher with 8 years who is like 1 degree from being fired
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:02 pm to Smart Post
quote:Just fine I'm sure because they got what they ultimately wanted:
How do white liberals sleep at night knowing they destroyed Black America
quote:The biggest lie of the last 50 years is the concern and compassion democrats have for blacks. Blacks to democrats are nothing more than a pawn to be played and used to achieve an end. Nothing more, nothing less.
political gain
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:14 pm to deeprig9
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emotional or behavioral disorders
Translation: Gimme muh SSI check!111
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:38 pm to upgrayedd
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They're at the same school as the other kids. The only difference is one group actually gives a shite about their kid's education and the other group is using the school system as a daycare service
Involved parents are the biggest resource of all
Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:44 pm to ShortyRob
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driven by time teaching
I am not crazy about this either, but what measures would you look at for merit based increases for teachers?
On getting into teaching, I am sure the process is probably way too crazy as it is government, but can everyone just teach because they are good at math? Not a knock on anyone, and teaching your own child may go well, but could you be successful teaching a room full of 30 kids? How do you know you could be successful. Teaching is more than just knowing how good your math or science skills are. I am great at math and use it every day, but I know I would have trouble teaching a room full of kids. It would be hard.
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