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The Caravan is a test of American's will re. the border

Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:08 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119897 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:08 am
Whoever organized it did not simply do so to just gain a few thousand third world votes. The real purpose is to test our will and opinion regarding the border. The left knew how Trump would react, sending the military and harping on it every chance for weeks. The real purpose of this is to see if Americans go for the tough stance of Trump or can have their will beaten down by "Muh women and children" stories and bullshite about tear gas.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53547 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:23 am to
The Left should know that one caravan isn't enough. With persistence, their position is winnable.

Combine overwhelming Propaganda with more Caravans and IMHO the US electorate can be mentally conditioned to view Trump's approach as less than desirable.

Mass media can overcome the fact that Obama's approach is almost identical to Trump's approach, because Propaganda can influence the US electorate to praise Obama and condemn Trump -- FOR THE SAME THING.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107049 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:24 am to
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Mass media can overcome the fact that Obama's approach is almost identical to Trump's approach, because Propaganda can influence the US electorate to praise Obama and condemn Trump -- FOR THE SAME THING.


Half-black man good, ORANGE MAN BAD!!!
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119897 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:30 am to
Right. It's a test of how the public reacts
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23067 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:31 am to
I think they saw how fast the European governments rolled over in support of the Muslim “migrants” and figured why not try the same play against the US.

Problem is, DJT is no Eurocuck and will protect the border
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107049 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:32 am to
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I think they saw how fast the European governments rolled over in support of the Muslim “migrants”


It's like they were all French.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4523 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:04 am to
This is yet another attempt from Dems/libs/socialist/globalist to illegally break the U.S.A rule of law and place more financial burden/health and safety concerns on the legal American citizens

Pathetic lawyers will continue to tie the hands of this administration

The millions of peaceful legal American citizens will have to eventually make a decision to rise up and bring an end to this.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53547 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:15 am to
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Right. It's a test of how the public reacts


According to my own beliefs, "the public" will react in accordance with how effective Propaganda conditions them to react.

I'm a total believer in the power of effective propaganda, based on my own professional studies and observations.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:30 am to
quote:

The Left should know that one caravan isn't enough. With persistence, their position is winnable.

Combine overwhelming Propaganda with more Caravans and IMHO the US electorate can be mentally conditioned to view Trump's approach as less than desirable.
i cannot get over how fantastically stupid this is.

in this scenario, we're going south to bribe new voters to the US, and we SKIPPED ALL OF MEXICO, GUATEMALA, AND BELIZE TO DO THAT.

either that or they all said no. as if we couldnt find 3000 Mexicans living 5 minutes from the border right now who would do it for money and safe passage. it means no one else was saying yes to that offer, no matter how far south we went until 3 countries later.

and then OUR PLAN WAS TO HAVE THEM WALK? with all their shite on their back?

you actually think thats what happened?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119897 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:32 am to
Yes
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27892 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:34 am to
Yes. I do. Finding Mexicans right across the border doesn’t create a useful narrative. Having “migrants” flee “persecution” and have to walk from Honduras created a useful narrative.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:52 am to
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Yes. I do. Finding Mexicans right across the border doesn’t create a useful narrative. Having “migrants” flee “persecution” and have to walk from Honduras created a useful narrative.
how is it possible that we've paid off all of these tens of thousands of immigrants for a over a decade and not one person from either side has ever talked about it?
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:54 am to
Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free... and we will gas your children at the border.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133587 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:55 am to
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Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free... and we will gas your children at the border.
Just like Obama did in 2013.....
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:58 am to
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The real purpose of this is to see if Americans go for the tough stance of Trump or can have their will beaten down by "Muh women and children" stories and bullshite about tear gas.



Laughable. tighten up that tin foil hat, dolt.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27892 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:11 pm to
Who said anything about “we” and about it ranging over a decade? I’m talking about the caravan that just happened to pop up right in time for midterms and it being funded by a few 1% globalists
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35445 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:50 pm to
As soon as the migrant caravan woman was interviewed earlier and said:
quote:

I thought I'd be working in America by now
...that's all I needed to hear. The handlers and lawyers expected the Trump to cave. They never expected him to triple down on border security. They never expected Tijuana residents to openly and adamantly protest the influx of migrants. And they never expected Mexico to call on NATO after labeling the migration a "humanitarian crisis".

If anyone thinks this wasn't funded and strategies, they're looking with eyes wide shut. And as for those who did plan, fund and initiate the caravan, this was the ultimate backfire.

We need our fricking wall, now!
Posted by tigersandsaints
Member since Dec 2005
9987 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:53 pm to
1- the statue of Liberty is not our immigration policy
2- no one seemed to care when the last POTUS was doing it
3- frick right off
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18741 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:16 pm to
The polls I have seen, the longer it goes on the more people actually understand our immigration policies and how ridiculous they are.....and are siding with Trump.

The woman mercilessly dragging her two children across the field so she could throw them towards some tear gas didnt help the cause, and neither did the rocks, or the honduran flags, or the demands.

Its all playing out nicely for the good guys. A few bloodied border guards and we are going to see the public really get pissed.
Posted by imbtrthny
Member since Nov 2018
27 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 2:24 pm to
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Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free... and we will gas your children at the border.


Why do your kind believe our immigration policy should forever be dictated by a poem added later to a statue that was given to the country, nearly a century after it's founding, by foreigners?
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 2:26 pm
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