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FBI Director Wray: “These are not hoax devices”

Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Nastradamus
Member since Oct 2018
238 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:47 pm
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Here's a list of the 14 devices that have been found so far and who they were addressed to:

George Soros
The first device was discovered in Soros' mailbox Monday at his suburban home outside New York City. Officials say it was likely delivered by hand rather than mail, allowing it to reach its destination undetected.

The Clintons
A Secret Service agent screening Bill and Hillary Clinton's mail found the device that was address to their home in Chappaqua, New York. Like several others, the package's return address listed Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), whose name was misspelled.

The Obamas
A package almost identical to the one found at the Clintons' home was sent to Barack and Michelle Obama's house in the Kalorama neighborhood of Washington. It was also intercepted by Secret Service before making it to the Obamas.

CNN and John Brennan
CNN's New York Studio in the Time Warner Building was evacuated in the middle of Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto's live coverage of the devices sent to the Clintons and the Obamas. The package delivered to the Time Warner Building was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, who has appeared on CNN criticizing Trump.

Eric Holder and Debbie Wasserman Schultz
The packages listed Wasserman Schultz in the return address, and one made it back to her Florida office. The package was incorrectly addressed to former Attorney General Eric Holder and was redirected to Schultz.

Rep. Maxine Waters
Two devices were addressed to Waters (D-Calif.), who has been a staple in Trump's attacks on Democrats during his rallies. One device was addressed to Waters' office in Washington, and the other to California, but both were stopped in screening facilities far from her offices.

Robert De Niro
A device addressed to De Niro's Manhattan production offices was found by his office's security personnel, police reported Thursday morning. Though not an elected official, the film star has openly criticized Trump in the past.

Joe Biden
Authorities are investigating two packages sent to the former vice president that were intercepted at Delaware mail facilities, one in New Castle and one in Wilmington.

Cory Booker
A suspicious package bound for Democratic Sen. Cory Booker's Camden, N.J., office was discovered in Florida on Friday morning.

James Clapper
Another package was discovered in New York City on Friday bound for the former director of National Intelligence. Clapper has been one of the most outspoken critics of the Trump administration.

Kamala Harris
A postal employee in a Sacramento, California, mail facility noticed a package addressed to Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) similar to those containing explosives and flagged it for FBI inspection, Harris' office said.

Tom Steyer
Another billionaire Democratic philanthropist, Tom Steyer, was targeted by a suspicious package that was caught in Burlingame, California. Steyer has spent millions advocating for Trump's impeachment.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52343 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:49 pm to
Then he's the worst bomb maker in the history of humanity.


Even your resident Muzzie goat fricker can get one to explode once in a while.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:50 pm to
if they werent real bombs then yes they are fake and a hoax

wray needs to read a dictionary
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109456 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:51 pm to
What was the triggering mechanism on these things?
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:51 pm to
Is it still "Winning" if none of the bombs went off?

"We have the best bomb makers folks"
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:51 pm to
Yes they are.

However, you can be convicted of armed robbery, if the people you are robbing are convinced you are armed.


So technically, Director Wray is correct - these are not hoax devices. Even though they had zero chance of detonating.


Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33943 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:52 pm to
This is not a hoax knife:

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:52 pm to
So.....they ALL malfunctioned? They were all real bombs that didn't work?

I'm NOT saying that it's any better to send fake bombs or real bombs through the mail, but if they were the former, then they are hoaxes, by definition.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56603 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:52 pm to
This is why the FBI has destroyed all of the devices instead of taking them back to Virginia. There is no proof otherwise now!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107976 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:52 pm to
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if they werent real bombs then yes they are fake and a hoax
Just when the democrats completely made a fool of themselves and almost buried themselves with their foolishness, the repubs on this board are trying to bring them back from the dead with this shite



If the guy tried to make them actual bombs, then no people, it isnt a hoax in any colloquial way.

Yall know this. Stop embarrassing yourselves
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63950 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:55 pm to
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If the guy tried to make them actual bombs, then no people, it isnt a hoax in any colloquial way.


If they weren't bombs then they weren't bombs. What effort or intent there was doesnt magically turn something into a bomb.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107976 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:55 pm to
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but if they were the former, then they are hoaxes, by definition.
It isnt even the actual definition


quote:

A hoax is a falsehood deliberately fabricated to masquerade as the truth.
If he tried to make these devices actually explode, they arent a hoax by definition, and especially not in colloquial terms to people



Stop with this foolishness people. It is making the right look stupid as hell to people in the middle. This is a random nutjob that is an idiot that likely tried to make bombs but doesnt know his arse from a hole in the ground
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Then he's the worst bomb maker in the history of humanity
That is probably the case. My guess is he got directions off the internet to try to build bombs and had no idea what he was doing. Most likely too dumb to make them actual bombs.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:56 pm to
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What was the triggering mechanism on these things?


CNN
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107976 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:56 pm to
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What effort or intent there was doesnt magically turn something into a bomb.
But that 100% matters when calling it a hoax
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39572 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

If the guy tried to make them actual bombs, then no people, it isnt a hoax in any colloquial way.

Yall know this. Stop embarrassing yourselves



What part makes you think he tried to make them actual bombs? Trying to make them look like actual bombs =/= trying to make actual bombs.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39572 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

If he tried to make these devices actually explode, they arent a hoax by definition, and especially not in colloquial terms to people



What did he do to try and make these devices actually explode?

quote:

Stop with this foolishness
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107976 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:58 pm to
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What part makes you think he tried to make them actual bombs? Trying to make them look like actual bombs =/= trying to make actual bombs.

We dont know for sure either way yet.


But I would say most people without an agenda would say this dumb nutjob thought he was making a working bomb



I have no clue why the right is offended by that, and I have no clue why the left feels so great about it


Both sides are handling this like jackasses
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 2:59 pm to
I am no bomb maker but you would think someone looking to do that would test them out in a field or something to make sure they work.

It sounds like this dude just bought some shite that looked "bomby" and glued it together thinking it would magically go boom when it reached its final destination.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

if they werent real bombs then yes they are fake and a hoax wray needs to read a dictionary


If his intention was for them to blow up and he just made terrible bombs, that's one thing.

If they were never intended to be functional, that's a hoax.
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