re: what about the back to back unsportsman like conduct penalties?

the posing and acting stuff is a point of emphasis for at least one other conference in addition to the SEC so it is likely to get called more too..

I couldn't care less about the additional penalties, even after they were called. I was MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more concerned about the targeting call. The second I heard there was a targeting penalty, I knew the implication of that player would be suspended for the first half of the Bama game. Once they said it was on #40, I was fricking livid. After they showed the replay on the jumbotron, I was like, "Okay, cool, they have to overturn this." When the ref, the targeting call stood, I stood there in absolute disbelief. I said some pretty terrible things, so I apologize if you had your children near me.

I brought this exact game up to my friend. If our guys were flagged individually, why wasn’t there whole team flagged individually.

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couldn't care less about the additional penalties, even after they were called. I was MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more concerned about the targeting call. The second I heard there was a targeting penalty, I knew the implication of that player would be suspended for the first half of the Bama game. Once they said it was on #40, I was fricking livid. After they showed the replay on the jumbotron, I was like, "Okay, cool, they have to overturn this." When the ref, the targeting call stood, I stood there in absolute disbelief. I said some pretty terrible things, so I apologize if you had your children near me.

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well of course everyone was more upset about the targeting call.


but this separate thing has flown under the radar and just points to a particular ref in this instance acting in an irrational manner towards LSU with what looked like misguided anger. Did you see the expression on his face? he was some pissed off

I have just never seen a ref looking so angry, agitated, and pissed off

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I just want to see it on one other game some where at some point in time. Can you point to another SEC game where it was assessed in this manner?

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I'll dig for it...

also I was at a game (not officiating) that a team in NO got 5 yes 5 UNS in leading up to coin toss... 4 on players 1 on a coach - all deserved...


and here is a tricky one..


I saw targeting called on a LB on a hit on a receiver and it was declined! because there was ALSO roughing the passer.... the targeting was not going to give them a first down - so they took roughing which is an automatic first down.. targeting is not.

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not going there as far as which game it was, for reasons if you officiated you would get...


so a high school game, ok, I get it and you really can't even point to it to prove it happened, got it

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oh I could...... the coach of the team that got penalized was and is a good friend of mine, whom i respect a great deal.....


I know for a fact karr got 5 after one play and 4 BEFORE kickoff in another game...


and well st aug had a bizarre one many years ago that is still mind boggling..

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I've never seen it. What if 5 players posed? Would they have assessed 90 yards-ish worth of penalties?

Not exactly 90 because at some point you start assessing half the distance instead of 15 yards. But the point remains.

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you reach a point in there where it goes to half the distance...

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I am not talking about individual separate penalties being added up but rather penalties on each player in one incident at one time doing a group celebration type thing essentially together

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ah ok... that's a little tougher... but I know who to ask... keep in mind.. it being a point of emphasis now and the coaches know it - so it's more likely to be called and less likely to be done..

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being a point of emphasis now

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point of emphasis should only affect how often it gets called, not how it is enforced.


i’ve watched a ton of football over the last 30+ years. i’ve never seen it enforced that way.
when multiple players celebrate together, it is typically called as one penalty. not a separate penalty for each individual participating in the group celebration.

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Multiple UNS after the same play are rare but they do happen... especially in two conferences

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for multiple offenses. not for same offense.

directly from NCAA rule book:

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Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by which a player (or players) attempts to focus attention upon himself (or themselves).

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the celebration was a singular act, which can be 1 player or multiple players.

a singular act receives a singular penalty.