re: Calling them “bombs” is disingenuous and fake news

This board gets dumber and dumber every day

Let me enlighten people on what a bomb, explosive devices, detonators, initiation devices and similar topics. The media is notoriously horrendous at reporting on any "bomb subject" and most people are very ignorant on the topic.


1) BOMB
Webster definition: an explosive device fused to detonate under specified conditions.

To complete definition, I will add that it is a device meant to inflict physical damage to property or persons. Generally speaking, bomb can be in a metal container, can be unconfined, can be equipped with shrapnel and other hazardous materials. But the most important element of the term bomb, is the intention to cause injury, death or structural damage/destruction.

By that definition alone, we don't know if the packages were "bombs" or "hoax bombs", which is completely different. Looking like those were pipe bombs, they were meant to be resembling or were in fact "bombs".

Just as an example, Heroshiman and Nagasaki were nuclear bombs, because they were built to destroy cities and kill populations. Now, avalanche control charges and mining explosives are not "bombs" because they are meant to do constructive/safety work.

2) Explosives- not all explosives are created equal. You have low explosives (black power, incendiary mixtures in fireworks, and flash powder), they are slow moving compositions that perform under 2000m/s during combustion. Then you have high explosives, which perform above 2000 meters/second combustion or more accurately "detonation". So it is incorrect to say that a pipe bomb with black powder "detonated". Black powder is not powerful enough chemical composition to detonate. High explosives detonate- like C4(aka RDX with binder), ANFO, Dinomite(Nitroglycerin mixed with diatomaceous earth) and TNT (everyone heard of it). Third types of explosives are nuclear explosives like uranium and plutonium.

Generally speaking, low explosives are used for fireworks, ammunition, and movie stunt work(those "explosions you see in movies are almost always low explosives). High explosives are used in military operations, mining, demolition, and avalanche control.
Nuclear explosives were used to kill Japanese people many years ago and scare Russkies from invading Europe.

3) "Detonator"
Often confused with "ignition device". A detonator is a high explosive device in a typically small metal capsule, referred to as a "blasting cap" used to initiate or "detonate" high explosives. Ignition device to a detonator such as a battery with a switch or even a simple fuse is an "ignitor" not a "detonator". A remote control explosive device will use both "ignitor" and "detonator" and will commonly be incorrectly referred to as "detonator". The proper term will be "initiating mechanism".

4)Which brings us to Ignitors
Ignitors can be made with low-explosive chemicals- like firework fuses
Can be high explosive "fuses" called "shock tube" which is a thin line filled with fine powdering of high explosive which ignites and travels very fast to initate a blasting cap which then will detonate the remaining high explosive charge.
They can be electrical like battery with two shorted wires or it can be remote, however that will still require a battery energy source and two wires at the end of it connecting it to two shorted wires.

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hate to break this to you dude, but its a bomb either way.

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Nah, no matter what is inside that device it is incapable of exploding on its own. It's meant to look like a bomb by someone who doesn't know how to make a bomb.

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Send one of these to your local police station and try your asinine defense then.

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That would possibly fall under "terroristic threat", however, it would not fall under ATF jurisdiction of "destructive device", which is what a bomb is.

Bomb by legal and criminal definition requires and action of pressure to expand. It falls under general legal definition of a "destructive device". If it is a dummy prop, it is no longer a destructive device and would not classify as a "bomb".

Also, you're a clueless noob.

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Trump inspired male tried to take out high ranking dems.

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When Scalise was actually shot the narrative was “don’t villifying the party for the acts of a crazy person”. Strange how that narrative has changed.

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hate to break this to you dude, but its a bomb either way. also: a knife with no blood on it is still a knife. follow up: a loaded gun thats never been fired is still a gun. or hell, who knows, maybe your theory is right and thats not a real gun. how about you take a brand new gun and hold it up real high and then run up to trump with it as fast as you can, see if the Secret Service thinks its real or not.

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LOL No. A bomb with no trigger, explosive, or technical feasibility is not a bomb. Just like a cap gun is not a real gun and a prop knife is not a real knife. I know it's hard trying to distinguish between the two when you can't decide the difference between sex and gender. No one ran up and did anything with these bombs lol, run up to a cop with a poboy in your hand and see what happens.

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LOL, well played, but beer will not likely expand on its own unless you rig some kind of heating element to it, etc... It would not be very feasible.

However, a coke/menthos bottle rigged to expand and blow will definitely be classified as a "destructive device". There have also been many arrest of dry ice "bombs" and Works Toilet Bowl cleaner plastic bottle "bombs" falling under definition of "destructive device".

Jokes aside, prosecutors and ATF can be very capricious counts if they so wish, and charge any kid for any seemingly harmless prank with some serious criminal charges.

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Bombs explode. And so far I haven’t heard of any of them going off(which would then make it a bomb). Personally, they look like clocks to me. But the fact is, the media continues to misrepresent what has actually happened. Trying to turn a bomb scare hoax( probably done by a liberal) into a story about how a Trump inspired male tried to take out high ranking dems.

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Was listening to the Lars Larson show, he had a dude that was ex military who did bomb disposal /mitigation and he said the bomb that’s being shown on cable news was not designed to explode. Basically said it was a pretty crappy bomb, better description would be a prop.

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LOL No. A bomb with no trigger, explosive, or technical feasibility is not a bomb.

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thats great but its not the point I was addressing. he said it wasnt a bomb because it hadnt exploded.

"Bombs explode. And so far I haven’t heard of any of them going off.'

up to date now?

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I know it's hard trying to distinguish between the two when you can't decide the difference between sex and gender.

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...what?

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No one ran up and did anything with these bombs lol, run up to a cop with a poboy in your hand and see what happens.

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and if someone had mailed some sandwiches, that might be relevant. but they didnt, so its not, and you are dumb as a frickin rock.

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So - then you think all the left wing hatred for the police who shot the young black kid wielding an authentic looking toy pistol and 'threatening' people were all in error? That the police had a perfect right to react as if it were a real gun? (I actually believe that - but the leftists went wild with 'racism' charges)

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If you just accept that leftists put no value whatsoever on consistency and that they think no one remembers anything before yesterday about noon then you will achieve clarity.