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re: Stanford outscored Oregon 31-7 over the final 17 minutes + OT

Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:29 pm to
Ducks are going to score hundreds of thousands of points next week.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:30 pm to
Against Cal?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164607 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:31 pm to
Why didn’t Oregon kneel it?
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:34 pm to
They didn’t want to punt.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46617 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:37 pm to
They would have been punting on their opponent’s side of the 50 with under ten seconds to play. The punt itself would have expired the remaining time.

Not taking a knee was objectively a terrible decision. You are FAR more likely to fumble on a run than something going wrong on a 30 quick kick.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:39 pm to
We would have punted with 12 sec left to Love. Cristobal like the push we were getting upfront.
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:40 pm to
Previous thread joke...
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:43 pm to
It wasn't a kneeling situation.
People just using hindsight.

BUT ball security shoukd have been prioritized over extra yardage. The coaches may not have stretched that point to the RB
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46617 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:43 pm to
You wouldn’t have punted to anyone. You would have kicked it 20 yards out of the end zone into the 5th row and Stanford would have, at most, 2-4 seconds left from their own 20.

It was dumb. Every kneeling scenario apart from a last second punt blocked and returned for a TD (which has literally happened twice in the last 50 years of college or NFL football) results in time running out or Stanford getting the ball on their side of the field with under 10 seconds. The ONLY way they get the ball with enough time to score is if you turn it over trying to get the first.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46617 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:45 pm to
Coaches kneel all the time knowing there will be a few seconds left after the final knee. They then either have their QB heave it as far out of bounds as he can, have their punter run around or kick it through the end zone. Or if they are deep in their opponents territory they just take a 4th down kneel and trust they won’t give up a last play 90 yard TD.

Every coach trailing in those scenarios is praying the other coach is dumb enough to keep running plays.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 11:47 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164607 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

It wasn't a kneeling situation.
People just using hindsight.

But it was.

LSU Oklahoma national championship baw
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5396 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 1:29 am to
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Ducks are going to score hundreds of thousands of points next week.

Nooooooooooo! We're looking for an emotionally drained and deflated Ducks team waddling into Berkeley next week.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83814 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 1:45 am to
What happened with the call where the Oregon guy snuck into the endzone but they didn't give them the TD?
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
5396 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 2:36 am to
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It was the right call, the rule is just stupid and frequently ignored by the refs when a player catches the ball in the end zone.

Essentially, the pylon is only “out of bounds” in certain scenarios. When a player catches a pass standing in the end zone and part of his foot is touching the pylon it’s NEVER considered out of bounds. Only when a player is running into the end zone, and only if it isn’t the ball touching the pylon, is it considered equivalent to the out of bounds line.

It’s a silly, arbitrary rule

It's a weird set of seemingly conflicting rules. I believe these are the relevant rules:

RULE 2
Definitions

SECTION 12. Lines
Goal Lines
ARTICLE 2. The goal line at each end of the field of play runs between the
sidelines and is part of the vertical plane that separates the end zone from
the field of play
. This plane extends between and includes the pylons. The
two goal lines are 100 yards apart. The entire goal line is in the end zone.

SECTION 31. Field Areas

End Zone
ARTICLE 3. a. The end zone at each end of the field is the rectangle
defined by the goal line, sidelines and end line.
b. The goal line and goal line pylons are in the end zone.


RULE 4
Ball in Play, Dead Ball, Out of Bounds

SECTION 2. Out of Bounds
Player Out of Bounds
ARTICLE 1. a. A player is out of bounds when any part of his person
touches anything
, other than another player or game official, on or outside
a boundary line
(Rule 2-27-15) (A.R. 4-2-1-I and II).
b. An out-of-bounds player who becomes airborne remains out of bounds
until he touches the ground in bounds without simultaneously being
out of bounds.
c. A player who touches a pylon is out of bounds.


So if you touch the ball to the pylon, you have reached the end zone, but if you touch any part of your body on the pylon before the ball crosses the goal line, you are out of bounds.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2532 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 9:55 am to
I dont think hundreds of thousands of football games have been played.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5115 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:18 am to
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Ive watched hundreds of thousands of football games.


Let’s check that math to see how full of shite you are.....
In a week’s time you could really watch 10 full games. Let just assume you are a badass with 2 TVs so we’ll double the Saturday and Sunday numbers to give you about 16 games per week.

Thursday night game
Friday night game
Saturday 11am, 230, 6pm 9pm
Sunday noon, 3pm, 7pm
Monday night game

So 16 games per week during college season would be about 224 games. Tack on another 21 or so games of nfl after college regular season. I guess you could grab about 5-6 conference championships and another 40 games counting the bowls and nfl playoffs. So we are at roughly 291 games you could watch live in a single year. frick it, let’s round up to 300 games a year in case you like high school or preseason games. It would only take you over 333 YEARS to watch 100,000 games and we could at least double that to get “hundreds of thousands”. But then again maybe you catch a lot of replays.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13136 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 10:37 pm to
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Nooooooooooo! We're looking for an emotionally drained and deflated Ducks team waddling into Berkeley next week.

Y'all look decent thus far. Should be a pretty good game to watch for us neutrals.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8787 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:39 pm to


#SarkAfterDark
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35770 posts
Posted on 9/23/18 at 11:47 pm to
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So if you touch the ball to the pylon, you have reached the end zone, but if you touch any part of your body on the pylon before the ball crosses the goal line, you are out of bounds.


They use to say, the goal line extends around the world.

For 100 years this was the mantra. I heard it all growing up.

But apparently it no longer does. The rules, along with every other rule in the rulebook was changed within the last 10 years.

So now the pylon is some demarcation line and is out of bounds...but only for feet.

Not balls.

Lets make this EVEN more dysfunctional football.

Jesus, this sport had a nice set of simple rules for 100 years and in the last 10 they have re-written everything.

Guys go to a bar, they don't know what they're watching.

What's in-bounds, what's a catch, what's a legal hit...you have to be 13 years-old to know the rules because the game is new to you.
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