re: What can we give up and still improve for Jimmy Butler?

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He’s ball dominant and an ISO player

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if you believe in those, his 2017/18 Touch stats on NBA.com are in line with both Holiday's and Rondo's. and he played in vastly different system than what the Pels use. also, isn't the working theory that Holiday needs another primary ball handler to take the pressure off?

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He would make Jrue regress

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:whispers: what if Holiday played at his absolute peak the last 3 months of the season and is due for a regression regardless?

my Butler concerns are attitude- he's a bulldog, but he's a diva too and age. i think he wants to get one last big deal so he can get that new tv $$ (wonder how much the Wolves drama is about a new contract- Wiggins and Towns contracts dont leave much space for Jimmy).

i'd hate to max him out as he enters his 30s w/ Thibs miles on his legs and 1 season out of the last 5 playing more than 70 games

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He’s talented, yes, but that’s not all that goes into building a team.

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it's interesting how the board has evolved since Cousins. these same questions re: Cousins were largely waved away. now, Butler is a no go for some because of those things.

not a judgement on anyone. just interesting

Thibbs wants players.
Hill is not player in his optics.

Moore and Mirotic (played rookie seasons in CHI). Maybe. For the start.

TBH I wont do it...

If you are looking there - look rather for Pels as a 3rd party in the deal

And I forgot about Klay. I’m sure they are going to break a story about how he’s tired of being overshadowed by Durant and Curry and wants to go to NY or LA. Either one either become the man a team with the Clippers or team up with his idol LeBron.

Think about what OKC gave up to get PG.
Oladipo, the #2 pick in the draft 4 years into his career, averaging 16 ppg, although considered to have many flaws.
Sabonis, #11 pick after 1 year in the league.

We don't have 1 of those players, much less two, and that was just to rent PG for a year hoping you could convince him to stay when all indications were he was always going to LA.

I'd give up 2 picks to trade him for Solo/Ajinca. Look at it as 1 pick to give up the two terrible players, and the other to get Butler. I'm sure Minny will get better offers though. I'd throw Moore in there but wouldn't give up 2 firsts if he's going out. Would'nt let Niko or Randall go.

Jimmy reeks of Melo, and i really don't want him anymore, even though I was all about getting him the last year or two. Things have changed with how we play, and what are future can be, and i think we'd be better off without his attitude.

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We don't have 1 of those players, much less two, and that was just to rent PG for a year hoping you could convince him to stay when all indications were he was always going to LA.

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Not that I think we are going to make offer any trade, but PG had more suitors. No one was scared about how PG's game would mesh or lockeroom concerns or about giving him a max deal.

It will be interesting to see what they get for Jimmy, but I think this will be closer to the trade for Kyrie where the most they get is a decent pick and some glorified role players.

Give up two number 1’s but only if he signs for at least 3 years

I ain’t giving up Tractor’s ghost for anybody.

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All of these proposals are considering trades from the Pelicans side and not the other one. None of you would want the crap you are offering if you were a fan of the other team.

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Meh. It's all valid. The actual trade that is accepted by actual GMs can be something a fan of a given team would've laughed off the board.

I mean, Buddy Hield for Cousins? It happens.




Cue the "Hurr durr, well let's just call LeBron to NO for E'Taun Moore!"

Looks like something is going to happen sooner rather than later