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re: Hurricane Florence - Information and Resources
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:59 am to wickowick
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:59 am to wickowick
quote:Good reminder.
I'm not sure if this has been posted or not but for anyone in a mandatory evac area, most homeowner's insurances cover up to 2 weeks of cost. SAVE ALL RECEIPTS
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:44 am to Riolobo
quote:
Would you ride it out in Charleston?
Not a chance in hell I would try. Charleston floods with a heavy afternoon shower. They are talking in feet in terms of rainfall over the next several days.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 11:57 am to Riolobo
quote:
Would you ride it out in Charleston?
No. The wind could be rough, but it's the rainfall problem. 10+ inches along with potential onshore flow will be a big flooding problem. No need to roll the dice on not being flooded in during TS type winds because you're not getting extracted for a while in that case.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:05 pm to Duke
State of Emergency for All GA Counties Declared
Added emergency management info for Georgia in OP post 2.
Added emergency management info for Georgia in OP post 2.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:08 pm to When in Rome
You've put together an awesome info dump/resource for people. Many thanks Rome.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:18 pm to When in Rome
And make sure your deed and titlework is safe and sealed
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:44 pm to When in Rome
quote:Well shite
State of Emergency for All GA Counties Declared
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:59 pm to prplhze2000
I’d like to make a list of items people should think about to bring with them. Things like passports, birth certificates, deed and titlework materials, kids’ school records in case they are displaced for a while, itemized lists and pictures and videos of possessions for insurance purposes, receipts, etc.
Can anyone add to what I’ve just listed?
Can anyone add to what I’ve just listed?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:13 pm to When in Rome
If they're bringing pets pet shot records, some hotels require them to let the animals stay there.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:20 pm to choppadocta
Hurricane Evacuation Prep:
Items to Pack:
-Passports
-Birth certificates
-Deed, titlework, other legal documents
-Kids’ school records in case you are displaced for a while
-Itemized lists and pictures and videos of possessions for insurance purposes, receipts, etc.
-Pet shot records for hotels
-Cash
-Gas cans
-Ice chest full of drinks/food
House Considerations
If you can't bring everything, place valued items in waterproof bins or on top of mattresses in case of flooding.
Fill any plastic jugs you can with water and freeze them while you have power. You want your freezer to be a near solid mass of ice to keep the temp freezing. Masses of ice work.
Too late now to suggest a Carbon Monoxide detector (battery operated preferred) for the wall nearest the outside location of your generator. NEVER put the generator inside; people died in New Orleans trying to stop their generators from being stolen.
Sheets of heavy plastic to deflect water to the sides of your house if you get roof damage.
Also, the windy website has locations of many on shore cams which might help some people with decision making.
Please feel free to respond to this post with more ideas so that I can add them to the list. I will link to this post in the OP.
Items to Pack:
-Passports
-Birth certificates
-Deed, titlework, other legal documents
-Kids’ school records in case you are displaced for a while
-Itemized lists and pictures and videos of possessions for insurance purposes, receipts, etc.
-Pet shot records for hotels
-Cash
-Gas cans
-Ice chest full of drinks/food
House Considerations
If you can't bring everything, place valued items in waterproof bins or on top of mattresses in case of flooding.
Fill any plastic jugs you can with water and freeze them while you have power. You want your freezer to be a near solid mass of ice to keep the temp freezing. Masses of ice work.
Too late now to suggest a Carbon Monoxide detector (battery operated preferred) for the wall nearest the outside location of your generator. NEVER put the generator inside; people died in New Orleans trying to stop their generators from being stolen.
Sheets of heavy plastic to deflect water to the sides of your house if you get roof damage.
Also, the windy website has locations of many on shore cams which might help some people with decision making.
Please feel free to respond to this post with more ideas so that I can add them to the list. I will link to this post in the OP.
This post was edited on 9/13/18 at 8:26 am
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:21 pm to PsychTiger
PsychTiger thanks for the heads up. I’m in Johns Island and planning on riding it out. Sending the wife and kids to Helen for a few days and I’m staying with the dogs. You live in James Island?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:29 pm to When in Rome
Disclaimer: When it comes to your personal safety and the safety of your family, do what you feel is necessary. Obviously follow the guidance of your local officials and local NWS office too, and if their guidance says to leave, you should leave, even if it contradicts my suggestions. However, if you're going to come to this thread to ask, here is what I would suggest as far as "to evacuate or not" is concerned:
1. Do you live in NC or SC? If yes, go to 2, if no, continue monitoring the storm and await further guidance, particularly those in GA.
2. Do you live in the following counties in NC - Currituck, Camden, Pasquotanik, Perquimans, Chowan, Bertie, Washington, Tyrrell, Dare, Hyde, Beaufort, Pamilco, Carteret, Onslow, Pender, New Hanover, Brunswick, Columbus, Bladen, Sampson, Robeson, Cumberland, Duplin, Lenoir, Wayne, Lenoir, Jones, Craven? If yes, evacuate inland (west and/or north). If no, continue to 3.
3. Do you live in the following counties in SC - Dillon, Marion, Horry, Florence, Georgetown, Willimsburg, Charleston, Berkeley, Dorchester, Colleton, Beaufort? If yes, evacuate, preferably to GA or get west of Columbia and north of I-20. If no, continue to 4.
4. Do you live in NC, south of Greenville, and I-95 runs through your county or is to your west? If yes, go to 6. If no, go to 5.
5. Do you live in SC and I-95 runs through your county or is to your west? If yes, go to 6. If no, go to 10.
6. Do you live along a body of water, including, but not limited to, a creek, lake, bayou, slough, drainage canal, or river, OR do you live in a flood zone other than Zone C or Zone X? If yes, you should make preparations for possible flash floods, including an evacuation plan, and I'd strongly consider evacuating if possible. If no, go to 7.
7. Do you have large trees near your home that could reach your home if they fall? If yes, I'd strongly consider evacuating. You're likely to see hurricane force wind gusts at a minimum and coupled with the rain fall that's expected, downed trees will be plentiful in your area. If no, go to 8.
8. Are you prepared to be without power and additional rations for up to 2 (two) weeks? If yes, go to 9. If no, prepare immediately or evacuate.
9. Do you have small children or elderly individuals in your home? If yes, you should strongly consider evacuating. If no, go to 12.
10. Do you have small children or elderly individuals in your home? If yes, consider getting further inland or prepare to be without power for up to a week. If no, go to 11.
11. Continue monitoring the situation, particularly the potential rainfall totals, and have an evacuation plan in place.
12. Alright Billy Badass, best of luck holding down your fort, but stay tuned for more information as the situation may change.
1. Do you live in NC or SC? If yes, go to 2, if no, continue monitoring the storm and await further guidance, particularly those in GA.
2. Do you live in the following counties in NC - Currituck, Camden, Pasquotanik, Perquimans, Chowan, Bertie, Washington, Tyrrell, Dare, Hyde, Beaufort, Pamilco, Carteret, Onslow, Pender, New Hanover, Brunswick, Columbus, Bladen, Sampson, Robeson, Cumberland, Duplin, Lenoir, Wayne, Lenoir, Jones, Craven? If yes, evacuate inland (west and/or north). If no, continue to 3.
3. Do you live in the following counties in SC - Dillon, Marion, Horry, Florence, Georgetown, Willimsburg, Charleston, Berkeley, Dorchester, Colleton, Beaufort? If yes, evacuate, preferably to GA or get west of Columbia and north of I-20. If no, continue to 4.
4. Do you live in NC, south of Greenville, and I-95 runs through your county or is to your west? If yes, go to 6. If no, go to 5.
5. Do you live in SC and I-95 runs through your county or is to your west? If yes, go to 6. If no, go to 10.
6. Do you live along a body of water, including, but not limited to, a creek, lake, bayou, slough, drainage canal, or river, OR do you live in a flood zone other than Zone C or Zone X? If yes, you should make preparations for possible flash floods, including an evacuation plan, and I'd strongly consider evacuating if possible. If no, go to 7.
7. Do you have large trees near your home that could reach your home if they fall? If yes, I'd strongly consider evacuating. You're likely to see hurricane force wind gusts at a minimum and coupled with the rain fall that's expected, downed trees will be plentiful in your area. If no, go to 8.
8. Are you prepared to be without power and additional rations for up to 2 (two) weeks? If yes, go to 9. If no, prepare immediately or evacuate.
9. Do you have small children or elderly individuals in your home? If yes, you should strongly consider evacuating. If no, go to 12.
10. Do you have small children or elderly individuals in your home? If yes, consider getting further inland or prepare to be without power for up to a week. If no, go to 11.
11. Continue monitoring the situation, particularly the potential rainfall totals, and have an evacuation plan in place.
12. Alright Billy Badass, best of luck holding down your fort, but stay tuned for more information as the situation may change.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:44 pm to Prominentwon
quote:Any updates on your cousin's grandmother? I hope they were able to check into the shelter or get her somewhere safe.
Prominentwon
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:50 pm to When in Rome
I'm not sure if this sort of thing should be OP'd, but over the next few days the WPC and SPC will be putting out Mesoscale Discussions that highlight specific heavy rain and tornado threats. They look like this:
LINK
I'm going to be traveling, so I'll post em sporadically at best. I'll try to focus on the most significant and relevant of them, because there are going to be many popping out. Just an fyi.
quote:
Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0827
Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0827
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
1254 PM EDT Wed Sep 12 2018
Areas affected...Central and Northern Texas Coast
Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding possible
Valid 121649Z - 122200Z
Summary...Showers and thunderstorms will increase across coastal
Texas with periods of very heavy rainfall. 2-4" of rain with
isolated higher amounts may produce flash flooding.
Discussion...Cooling cloud tops noted on GOES-16 IR imagery just
off the coast of Texas are indicative of strengthening convection.
This is developing SE of a stationary front just offshore. At the
same time, clearing noted on GOES-16 visible imagery is coincident
with increasing MLCape of up to 1000 J/kg on latest RAP analysis.
Thunderstorms have started to develop in this more unstable air,
while at the same time intensifying offshore as evidenced by HGX
radar estimated hourly rain rates of up to 2"/hr.
A weak low pressure evident in low-level wind fields will drift
across the lower Rio Grande Valley while mean 0-6km flow will
persist out of the SE at around 10 kts. Backed flow on the east
side of this low pressure will help to enhance confluence and
increase moist advection onshore over the next several hours. This
will drive strong lift atop the stationary boundary which will be
further enhanced by frictional convergence. Additionally, MLCape
is forecast to increase towards 1500 J/kg inland from the coast
suggesting convection will maintain intensity as it lifts onshore.
In an environment with PWATs over 2.2 inches, this suggests very
heavy rainfall potential with rain rates over 2"/hr possible.
Corfidi vectors are at large angles to the mean wind, so
backbuilding of thunderstorms is possible. Redevelopment along
convergence boundaries and outflows is likely in a pulse
environment with 0-6km environmental shear less than 15 kts.
High-res guidance has a clear signal for 2-4" of rainfall, with
locally higher amounts likely along these boundaries. This area
has received significant rainfall in the past 24 hours, so 3-hr
FFG values are low, around 2-2.5 inches, so flash flooding is
possible.
LINK
I'm going to be traveling, so I'll post em sporadically at best. I'll try to focus on the most significant and relevant of them, because there are going to be many popping out. Just an fyi.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:51 pm to When in Rome
Is there a reason the hurricane planes seem to all be turbo prop instead of jet? Do the turbo props do better flying into the storm to the eye or something?
Eye of Florence
Eye of Florence
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:01 pm to Duke
Are they always going to be posted to that URL similarly to the others? I just put that one in the OP and will try to keep the latest up there. Should I include discussion text screenshots as well, or is the graphic enough?
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:03 pm to I B Freeman
quote:USA Today - Ask The Captain
Is there a reason the hurricane planes seem to all be turbo prop instead of jet? Do the turbo props do better flying into the storm to the eye or something?
quote:
Question: Why are the hurricane hunter planes only twin turboprops and not the regular fan jets that passenger planes use?
Answer: The turboprops are more tolerant of hail than the jets. Airplanes that penetrate thunderstorms have an increased chance of encountering hail. Additionally, the two types of airplanes used, the P-3 and the C-130, are especially rugged.
Good question!
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:04 pm to When in Rome
I believe the links will change, so don't just post that one. I think I can link the site with a list of the active discussions. I'll do my best to post the images of most relevance. Just post the main link and graphics. The discussions get a bit technical, but there for those who want to read them. The graphic will make it clear what the concern is.
WPC Mesoscale Discussions
SPC Mesoscale Discussions
The WPC will be far more important since the SPC will just be highlighting possible tornado spots and those will be short lived.
WPC Mesoscale Discussions
SPC Mesoscale Discussions
The WPC will be far more important since the SPC will just be highlighting possible tornado spots and those will be short lived.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 2:06 pm
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