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T Bob says it’s scheme not players

Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:53 am
Posted by Lebowski
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
3544 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:53 am
I agree. An offensive repeat from the Miles era.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 10:55 am
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:54 am to
Did anyone really expect anything different?
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:54 am to
quote:

A repeat for the Miles era.



Hate to say it but maybe it's time to replace that Miles guy....

















Oh wait....
Posted by Brunedog
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
6521 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:54 am to
Mane I’m sitting here thinking the scheme is so terrible just really 1999 ish
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88575 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:54 am to
The stuff he and Flynn are saying I feel is spot on. But they'll be labelled as negas
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55960 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Did anyone really expect anything different?


different coaches and different players, yes I expected something different
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4526 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:56 am to
If you watch the game and see the left defensive end run by our right tackle repeatedly. Then run through out right tackle and a running back sent to help. I challenge you to explain that has anything to do with scheme.

You guys want spread and throw it around. You have to have an offensive line that can block. We have not had one for several years. This is not new.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12967 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:56 am to
So Traore got beat consistantly because of scheme? Right
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29828 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Did anyone really expect anything different?


Sadly, a lot of people did.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27039 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:57 am to
He was piggybacking on what Matt Flynn said last week and during the game, going max protect is an offense killer.

Well, looks like SE plans to do a lot of that this weekend on the plains. I find it hard to believe he would acknowledge anything from the second half of SLU. One of the worst offensive performances in LSU history.

quote:

What needs to be cleaned up on offense as you open SEC play this weekend against Auburn? Ensminger: "We have to do a good job of helping the offensive line, maybe with our (running backs) chipping. We did a little bit in the second half (vs. Southeastern). Including our tight ends in the pass protection.


Quote from LSU60
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by tigerwith3
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2011
1577 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:57 am to
quote:

different coaches and different players, yes I expected something different

Is it really different coaches? They just fired Miles and replaced him with an unqualified position coach who kept a good majority of the staff in place.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39830 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am to
It’s execution of the scheme. LSU is running formations, plays, route concepts, and pass protections that every team in the country uses. It just comes down to whether the players can execute it. The OL is struggling to do that and it’s bogging the entire offense down.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am to
But O only hires the best coordinators.

How can the best coordinator run a bad scheme?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35510 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am to
Also....reserve a big spot on the bench for Traore, he's horrible. The DE was beating him routinely
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64427 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am to
His explanation of why it was scheme was quite a reach. The issue is because of the o line sucking and burrow having a relatively slow wind up and release.

He wants us to run a spread air raid and do more quick passes. While I agree, Burrow’s release will get a shite load of those balls picked off, not to mention that if the WR don’t get open, it just puts our defense on the field more quickly.

I want more spread up tempo stuff, but at the moment with the o line struggles, those concepts will get joe killed by game 4-5.
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
5311 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am to
You know teams also run spread to hide OL issues right. Go 5 wide quick passes and don’t make the line block for long. It also pulls those extra defenders out of the box.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 10:59 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88575 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am to
quote:

You guys want spread and throw it around. You have to have an offensive line that can block.


No you don't, because you keep less people rushing when you send 4 and 5 receivers out. It also gives the QB many targets to get the ball to quickly.

When you have a bad O line, only sending 2 receivers is basically the worst thing you could do.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72778 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:58 am to
TBob made some good points this morning in that opening segment on why it doesn't make sense that our retarded OC is calling 5,6,7,8 man protection schemes, but if you think Joe Burrow, Nick Brossette, our weak OLine, and young WR core is going to compete in the SEC, I'd like to sell you some ocean front property in North Louisiana.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69197 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:59 am to
I think the line issues are mostly the players (3 starters out), but scheme could help circumvent the problem. Too often, the WR’s were running routes which took more time to develop than the qb had time to make his reads and throw. They need to counter the pass rush with quick slants and 5-10 yard out routes. Screen passes every now and then are great too because they make the defense think twice about blitzing.

The ofher issue is that when Burrow does have time, his recievers aren’t getting seperation.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88575 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

those concepts will get joe killed by game 4-5.


Have you watched the hits he's taken with "max protect?"
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