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re: McCain "I will repeal Obamacare" compilation

Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:46 pm to
Obamacare? I opposed it from Day One. I also voted against Obama both times.

Why? Are you one of the posters who insists that people who dislike Trump cannot conceivably be GOP voters?
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:46 pm to
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There are reasons that medical deferments are granted. It is because someone does not meet medical standards for service.

Sorry for ruining the narrative baw.


the bone spurs deferment makes the lottery numbers irrelevant

not sorry for ruining the lottery narrative, baw

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:52 pm to
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the bone spurs deferment makes the lottery numbers irrelevant

not sorry for ruining the lottery narrative, baw
No, “baw,” he got the diagnosis before the draft lottery was even implemented. He did so to get himself classified at a level which would get him a medical exemption from the pre-lottery draft system.

That is draft dodging, “baw.”
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 5:13 pm
Posted by DeplorableTigerFan
St. Louis
Member since Nov 2016
373 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 4:56 pm to
You are racking up the down votes. Here's another for you, McCain was a RINO and let his personal hate out weight what was good for the country and what he had promised he would do.

No hero in that...
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:16 pm to
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AggieHank86
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Who gives a frick? Seriously, everyone and anyone was doing anything they could to avoid going to that shite hold in the jungle. Hilarious that Ali is beloved by the left even though he ran and hid from the draft, but every fricking time a conservative of that age gets found to have taken a deferment or what have you, here you idiots come. Just shut up.

Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40886 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:21 pm to
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McCain "I will repeal Obamacare"



He may have even really meant it too till TRUMP wounded his pride then McCain showed us all how petty he was.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:27 pm to
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Just shut up.
One of you Trump knob-slobberers tells a complete BS lie about Trump’s draft history. I correct the falsity, and your response is now “no one wanted to go?”

If Trump would just decide on a story and stick with it, this might not even be an issue. He is just constitutionally-incapable of telling the truth about anything that might be conceived as negative about himself.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 5:30 pm to
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One of you Trump knob-slobberers tells a complete BS lie about Trump’s draft history. I correct the falsity, and your response is now “no one wanted to go?”

If Trump would just decide on a story and stick with it, this might not even be an issue. He is just constitutionally-incapable of telling the truth about anything that might be conceived as negative about himself.


Again I say, who gives a shite? I don't think Obama told a truth about himself since the day he drew a breath, do you have a stock pile of posts showing where you called him out?


That was, of course, rhetorical.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 6:46 pm to
He was unable to meet medical standards for military service. Sorry not sorry.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:10 pm to
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That is draft dodging, “baw.”

LOL. No it isn't. That's retarded. It's a fricking medical diagnosis
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80365 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Quite a few of them like ACA and use it


Of course, who doesn’t like free or severely subsidized shite

So don’t know why you threw this in as some justification.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9902 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:22 pm to
McCain will lie one last time....in state.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:28 pm to
No really, just stfu.

The first draft lottery of Vietnam was 12/69. Trump was 1Y and eligible for over 2 years. In those years there were at least two lotteries where he just wasn’t selected. By the time he classified 4F in 1972, he was 26 years old and the draft was abolished less than a year later.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 8:32 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:48 pm to
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He was unable to meet medical standards for military service. Sorry not sorry.


yes, we all knew he had bone spurs already

"narrative" intact
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 8:50 pm to
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No really, just stfu.

The first draft lottery of Vietnam was 12/69. Trump was 1Y and eligible for over 3 years. In those years there were at least three lotteries where he just wasn’t selected. By the time he classified 4F in 1972, he was 26 and the draft was abolished less than a year later.
You clearly have zero understanding of the Vietnam-era draft.

Until Dec-1969, the lottery did not exist, and everyone in age range was classified by default as 1-A .... susceptible to being drafted, absent a deferment or exemption. One of the most common such deferment was 1-S for students. Trump took advantage of those deferments until he graduated from Penn in May-1968, at which time he was reclassified back to 1-A (top eligibility).

Trump (well, his wealthy family) then found a doctor to claim he had “bone spurs,” and got himself re-classified 1-Y ... which was basically “temporarily” unavailable for service (in practice, a 1-Y almost never got reclassified back to 1-A), “for medical reasons in this case. (4-F was a permanent classification). As a 1-Y, Trump was effectively immune from the draft.

The draft lottery was implemented more than a year after Trump got himself reclassified as 1-Y. As such, Trump’s lottery numbers were irrelevant ... because he was safe as a 1-Y, a classification that he retained until that classification was abolished and all 1-Y classified individuals were changed to 4-F.

AGAIN:



You will now argue with everything I have just explained to you ... like Trump insisting that Robert Duvall loved the smell of Agent Orange ... because you are a Trump sycophant.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:02 pm to
1Y is good to go in war time.

quote:

1-Y - Registrant qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency.


LINK

All of his school deferments came prior to the first Vietnam lottery. His very first non eligible classification was 4F in 72 less than one year before Nixon killed the draft in January of 73.

You’re wrong on this one. It’s ok. Take your L and go turd up some other thread.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:07 pm to
Well, I nailed that prediction.

1-Y individuals were NEVER drafted during Vietnam, because it was not a declared war or national emergency.
quote:

Medical deferments, both temporary and permanent, were available for people with various disabilities, illness, etc. A 1Y was the most common, typically either temporary, or you weren't so disabled that you couldn't be called to do some clerical job in time of national emergency. LINK

You are one of those people who thinks he understands an issue when he has read a single Gateway Pundit piece on the topic, aren’t you?

Like Trump with Agent Orange, you are utterly convinced you are correct. It is a bit sad.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:11 pm to
Could not care less. The facts are the facts. Baw.

ETA: I remember when Democrats supported those that dodged the draft and refused to fight in Vietnam. What changed?
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:11 pm to
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McCain didn't frick Trump over. He fricked the American people over. He broke his own promise and blaming Trump makes you somehow look fricking dumber than you already are.

The internet has been won...no further posts necessary
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39752 posts
Posted on 8/26/18 at 9:24 pm to
Congress approved the use of military force, satisfying the requirement of a US war. A formal declaration against North Vietnam was withheld to allow the US to maintain a defensive only posture and avoid further provocation in the region. It means nothing in terms of service classification. We were at war. You are flailing.

Say it with me: he was eligible. Had his number been pulled, he would have had to go if they wanted him to.
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