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Should the MLB eliminate warmups between innings?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:51 pm
With the current rules, warmup time for each half inning is supposed to be 2 minutes, 5 seconds for most regular season games. Assuming about 15.5 between-inning warmups per game, this results in about about 32 "added" minutes to the game time.
So let's say MLB makes a more drastic cut and reduces this warmup time down to ~30 seconds per half inning. Yes, the players might have to sprint (the horror) to meet the time limit. Fielders would not be able to go through their lazy warmup routine (who cares). Pitchers might be able to get a pitch in with the backup catcher.
If they could pull this off, game times could potentially be reduced by ~20-25 mins, with between-inning time down to ~8 minutes per game.
I'd even take this a step further and apply this rule to mid-inning reliever changes. I estimate that saving another ~5 minutes, which kinda sucks but it could keep eyes on the screen and the relievers would have to do the John Rocker full-on sprint to the mound just to get a warmup pitch on the actual mound.
Pros:
-Reduced game time
-Reduced between-inning commercial time for fans
-Higher long term attendance potential (debatble)
-Longer length of stay (inning wise) by fans
-Reduced hidden pitch count (warmup pitches)
-Reliever sprints
Cons:
-Reduced commercials for networks, but I feel like they could make this up with more viewers and ads during the other hundreds of minutes where no real action is happening
-Decreased pitcher accuracy (debatble)
-More errors in the field (debatable) could offset some of the time increase
Other terrible ideas I'd consider:
-Completely eliminate mound visits or reduce to 1 per game. Figure it out on your own, MLB pitcher.
-Add not only a pitch clock (e.g. 20 seconds), but also an "actual fricking pitch" clock (e.g. 60 seconds) to both add confusion and prevent long pickoff sequences.
-Add DH to the NL (I used to be vehemently against this, but whatever) so pitchers can stay warm between innings if they need.
-If you strike out 4 times in the first 9 innings, you're out of the game. Bye.
-Rap version of Take Me Out to the Ballgame (e.g. Take Me 2 Tha Game, Bitch) so it's faster and appeals to the young, hip crowd.
So let's say MLB makes a more drastic cut and reduces this warmup time down to ~30 seconds per half inning. Yes, the players might have to sprint (the horror) to meet the time limit. Fielders would not be able to go through their lazy warmup routine (who cares). Pitchers might be able to get a pitch in with the backup catcher.
If they could pull this off, game times could potentially be reduced by ~20-25 mins, with between-inning time down to ~8 minutes per game.
I'd even take this a step further and apply this rule to mid-inning reliever changes. I estimate that saving another ~5 minutes, which kinda sucks but it could keep eyes on the screen and the relievers would have to do the John Rocker full-on sprint to the mound just to get a warmup pitch on the actual mound.
Pros:
-Reduced game time
-Reduced between-inning commercial time for fans
-Higher long term attendance potential (debatble)
-Longer length of stay (inning wise) by fans
-Reduced hidden pitch count (warmup pitches)
-Reliever sprints
Cons:
-Reduced commercials for networks, but I feel like they could make this up with more viewers and ads during the other hundreds of minutes where no real action is happening
-Decreased pitcher accuracy (debatble)
-More errors in the field (debatable) could offset some of the time increase
Other terrible ideas I'd consider:
-Completely eliminate mound visits or reduce to 1 per game. Figure it out on your own, MLB pitcher.
-Add not only a pitch clock (e.g. 20 seconds), but also an "actual fricking pitch" clock (e.g. 60 seconds) to both add confusion and prevent long pickoff sequences.
-Add DH to the NL (I used to be vehemently against this, but whatever) so pitchers can stay warm between innings if they need.
-If you strike out 4 times in the first 9 innings, you're out of the game. Bye.
-Rap version of Take Me Out to the Ballgame (e.g. Take Me 2 Tha Game, Bitch) so it's faster and appeals to the young, hip crowd.
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:54 pm to deuce
These are all fricking horrible ideas.
Is this a troll?
Is this a troll?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:56 pm to deuce
Perfectly healthy, I wouldn't need but about 5 pitches to be ready for a new inning.
But man, there were times when I'd need 15. Which is probably why I ended up having labrum surgery
But man, there were times when I'd need 15. Which is probably why I ended up having labrum surgery
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:59 pm to deuce
quote:
the MLB
The MLB? Or just an MLB? Can you be more specific?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:17 pm to LSUBoo
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The MLB? Or just an MLB? Can you be more specific?
Good point. We can drop the "the" and just call it MLB to save even more time.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:19 pm to deuce
I think you need more coffee.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:09 pm to FulshearTiger
quote:
These are all fricking horrible ideas.
Fine, ignore the (mostly) joking items at the bottom which, you know, I labeled "terrible ideas". No, I don't want a rap version of Take Me Out to the Ballgame. I'm just wondering:
Do you think the quality of play would be drastically worse without warmups? Keep in mind pitchers can keep warm in the stadium facilities as needed. I realize familiarity/feel with the actual mound is an issue, but I'm not sure it's a deal breaker. A 1-2 pitch warmup each inning could suffice.
Do you think the number of viewers would hold better if average game times were reduced to the 2 hr ~35 minute range? It's all speculation of course, but it makes sense logically.
The big hurdle obviously would be for the networks to make up lost commercial time and dollars with alternative advertising methods. Again, just speculation and wondering if possible.
Perhaps 30 seconds per half-inning is over-doing it, but I don't think a drastic reduction is as outlandish/impossible as most seem to think.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:20 pm to Jcorye1
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Commercials.
It's 90 fricking seconds of commercial time for every half inning and pitching changes. Meanwhile, the NFL has like five minute commercial breaks for every change of possession. Why the hell are people complaining about commercial breaks for baseball games? The length of their commercial breaks are very reasonable.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:21 pm to deuce
There is no way they’re going to reduce advertising time by that much
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:22 pm to deuce
quote:
Take Me 2 Tha Game, Bitch
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:26 pm to deuce
One thing they never talk about that would not speed up the game but help the fans is starting the games by :05 or :35. It's annoying that they use those :10, :15, :40 and :45 start times.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 3:15 pm to deuce
No
Posted on 8/22/18 at 3:33 pm to deuce
No
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