re: Autoweek test drives the 2019 Silverado

quote:

---

think the trail boss includes the Z71 hardware (locking diffs, skid plates, bigger tow hooks, hill descent control, etc.) plus the Dura-Track tires and a noticeably taller suspension.

The new GMC Sierra has a version of it too that looks more grown up and less like a Baja truck.

---

im not feeling the front end on the new gmc (i think the AT4 is the model like the trail boss). at least not in pics. will have to see them both in person. u had a 2010 silverado, then a 2014 silverado, and swapped to the 2018 gmc because i liked its front end better. I just need to see both in person but im digging the trail boss pics

quote:

---

I agree on the front end, I surprised myself at how much I like it after watching a few videos.

---

I think Chrysler still has some of the best designers among the American and Japanese carmakers.

I wish they had fewer Fiat based models. Those all suck.

I like the way it looks. I would have considered it had it been available last year when I bought my truck. I just preferred the F150 over the current model Silverado

New Ram looks real good.

quote:

---

I believe the Tundras only options are basic v6 and old arse v8.

---

Old tried and true that run forever works for me

GM = 100 years of building trucks and still hasn't figured out that wheels are round

That’s a cool ad.

quote:

---

The most recent update freshened the cosmetics but everything underneath is basically still the same powertrain that came out in the 2nd Gen in 2007.

---

The Tundra and Sequoia need a major rework. They are definitely not moving many to anyone outside of the Toyota faithful with those dinosaurs.

quote:

---

know Toyota lags behind the big 3 in market share as far as pick ups go but they've got a ton of ground to make up with their next gen Tundra, whenever that may be. The most recent update freshened the cosmetics but everything underneath is basically still the same powertrain that came out in the 2nd Gen in 2007.

Think about how much the big 3 pickups have changed in a decade. They're all offering turbo 6s or diesel along with the big v8s. I believe the Tundras only options are basic v6 and old arse v8.

---

I think Toyota will redo the Tundra for 2019. But it does seem Toyota is content to invest little money into and sell it’s 100k per year or whatever it sells. The Tundra was by far the best truck out there in 2007ish when this model came out, and yet it still really couldn’t crack the market share. So maybe there’s little incentive for Toyota to invest.

I bought a 2016 Tundra knowing full well it wasn’t cutting edge, but I don’t mind. It does all I need and I expect to keep it 10 years. But it definitely isn’t the best except maybe in the amorphous “reliability” category, and who knows about that.

thats the 60k AT4