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How did the AFC East become such a dumpster fire?

Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by wazoo11
Member since Jul 2018
230 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:23 am
Seriously. Will any AFC team leap frog the patriots?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38849 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:35 am to
Not my Dolphins. The most frustrating, gutless organization in the NFL.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:59 am to
Baltimore belongs in the East

Miami belongs in the South

Indianapolis belongs in the North
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 10:09 am to
The jersey jets traded Bellichek to New England for first rounder in 2000 and 4th and 7th in 2001.
At the time I thought it was the worst trade since cowboys stole Minnesota blind.

This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 11:15 am to
Apparently Now the Jets have their Jetsiah in Darnold and the Bills theirs in Allen, the division got a tad more interesting atm but I don’t think it’ll be sufficient to immediately overcome the Pats do anticipate more competitive games at least
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 11:22 am to
The Patriots have been kicking everyone’s arse for years, so the other teams have made some questionable decisions to try to get over that hump that just haven’t worked out.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40552 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 11:30 am to
Probably pretty difficult to build a "winning attitude" when you have to fight for the wildcard every year, and when you don't get it, your coach gets fired, beginning anew.

Draft a new QB again and rinse, repeat.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46075 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 11:33 am to
I've long suspected the Patriots planted moles in all the front offices of the AFC East to frick up their scouting, drafting, and free agency matters.
This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 11:34 am
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
19170 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 11:45 am to
nobody has been able to find a decent QB during Brady's time in New England
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30178 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

AFC team leap frog the patriots?


There has likely never been a team in the history of sports that benefited more from the division in which they play.

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53577 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

There has likely never been a team in the history of sports that benefited more from the division in which they play.


the 90s Braves and the Yankees and the Sawx?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288169 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 12:29 pm to
Terrible QB play

BUF Post Jim Kelly

Flutie
Rob Johnson
Kelly Holcomb
Van Pelt
Bledsoes
Losman
Trent Edwards
Fitzpatrick
EJ Manuel
Kyle Orton
Tyrod

Miami post Marino

Fielder
Feely
Frerotte
Harrington
Cleo Lemon
Pennington
Matt Moore
Henne
Tannehill
Cutler


Jets since 2000

Pennington
Bollinger
Favre
Testeverde
Sanchez
Smith
McCown
Fitzpatrick



Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
15134 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:02 pm to
It's going to stay this way when Tommy Goat retires and Etling assumes the role of Danny Goat and rattles off 15 AFC East titles and 10 Lombardi parties.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 1:25 pm to
browns could actually win some games if they play cards right
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 2:22 pm to
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There has likely never been a team in the history of sports that benefited more from the division in which they play.



So are you going to compare their winning percentage against the AFC East against their winning percentage against every other division?

Tom Brady does not have a losing record against any team in the NFL. They consistently show up in the biggest games on the biggest stage, advance far in the playoffs, and have represented the AFC in the Super Bowl 8 times, and a winning record there too. If your argument was true, they wouldn't have the best out of division winning record since 2001, which they do. They also wouldn't consistently progress far in the playoffs, which they do.
This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 2:34 pm to
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So are you going to compare their winning percentage against the AFC East against their winning percentage against every other division? Tom Brady does not have a losing record against any team in the NFL. They consistently show up in the biggest games on the biggest stage, advance far in the playoffs, and have represented the AFC in the Super Bowl 8 times, and a winning record there too. If your argument was true, they wouldn't have the best out of division winning record since 2001, which they do. They also wouldn't consistently progress far in the playoffs, which they do.


Let's be honest: they do benefit from the ineptitude of the rest of that division, those teams suck but its not the Pats' fault its incumbent on those teams to improve themselves so they supplant them, the Pats TCB and have advanced to the Super Bowl 8x so they TCB in the AFC Playoffs as well, we have to accept things for what they are and apparently dominating in the AFC LEast hasn't been detrimental to the Pats come playoff time nor when it comes to submitting 13-3, 14-2 regular season records consistently the past 17 seasons, that's penalizing teams for TCB and doing their jobs and that's simply an unjust approach.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54307 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Indianapolis belongs in the North


Steelers own the Colts as badly as NE owns the Steelers
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44067 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

There has likely never been a team in the history of sports that benefited more from the division in which they play.


The Steelers have been in the same division Browns and Bengals for decades. Yes they have the Ravens, but they use to be the Browns.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29013 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

the 90s Braves and the Yankees and the Sawx?


Considering the Yankees and Sox are in the same division, that nullifies your point. And the Rays, Jays, and Orioles have each had brief moments of success.

A brief moment of success in the AFC East is a wild card appearance and playoff loss right off the bat.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22808 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Probably pretty difficult to build a "winning attitude" when you have to fight for the wildcard every year, and when you don't get it, your coach gets fired, beginning anew.
The sad thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. If you have patience and a plan, you can make things work.

Look at the Saints- a couple decades as arguably the worst franchise in the NFL. Mora comes in, and yes- he got an influx of talent from the USFL. But he also built from the draft, and the offense wasn't star-driven. Goal was stout defense and special teams. Biggest scoring threat was Morten Anderson.

Spent a decade chasing the 49ers, the best team in football. Never really caught them. Never won a playoff game. But the franchise elevated to one of the best regular season teams in that stretch, and stayed respectable afterwards (letting Payton work at raising them that last notch).
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