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Collusion Goalposts are Moving Rapidly

Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:53 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:53 am
Wapo


"There were reports last week that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen would testify, contrary to repeated White House denials, that President Trump knew of and approved the infamous Trump Tower meeting in June 2016, when Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and other campaign officials met with Russians offering damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

Faced with this new evidence of what looks remarkably like colluding with the Russians, the president’s defense has returned to the claim that any such collusion, even if it happened, would not be a crime. On “Fox and Friends,” Trump attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani recently said, “I have been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. Collusion is not a crime.” The president himself picked up on the theme, tweeting: “Collusion is not a crime, but that doesn’t matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!”

Atlantic

quote:

In debating whether collusion is a crime, Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani are successfully changing the subject from political misconduct to legalistic parsing.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:54 am to
After it comes out that crimes were committed, the answer will be - well we needed to do it to protect us from hillary.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134197 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:54 am to
quote:

that doesn’t matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!”
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:55 am to
Hey stupid, Trump has actually been saying this for well over a year now. THese exact words "collusion isn't a crime, but I didn't collude"

Why are you such a dishonest count?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68520 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Trump attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani recently said, “I have been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. Collusion is not a crime.”

Giuliani is a retard for saying this (Trump too). By saying it, they're saying "yeah we did that but no crime was committed".
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96030 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:55 am to
You must be watching a ton of Fox news with how stupid you are

No other excuse
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15618 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:56 am to
If getting dirt on your opponent is "political misconduct" then what would you call paying for a dossier full of Russian lies then using those lies to spy on your political opponents?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
50637 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:57 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:57 am to
quote:

that doesn’t matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats


I guess you're just going to ignore the meetings with Russians. Lol. Nice deflection.
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4480 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:57 am to
Trump jr. taking a meeting is collusion....but Hillary paying 15 million to Christopher Steele to actively engage Russian intelligence for dirt on Trump, is due diligence...yes the Goalposts seem to move very rapidly
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85805 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:58 am to
reports... would testify... looks like ...even if it happened...

Then...

new evidence

Let's see if you can figure it out.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:58 am to
Melt libtard!
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:58 am to
She didn't have an email server
She had one. But, only for recipes and yoga emails
She had work emails. But, none were classified
Some were classified. But, none were at the time they were sent

Some were. But, not HIGHLY classified

Okay. Some were very highly classified..but, not intentionally
etc.



Look...all goalposts move. It is the reason that having a huge, powerful Fed Gov is frickery. I don't trust ANY of them
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18598 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Giuliani is a retard for saying this (Trump too). By saying it, they're saying "yeah we did that but no crime was committed".


I will admit that with them saying more often that collusion isn’t a crime, got me thinking that perhaps someone might have tried to talk to Russians.

But again- if this is a problem for Trump, it’s also a problem for Schiff and Clinton. Contacting foreign countries for oppo research is nothing new.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18896 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 11:59 am to
quote:

After it comes out that crimes were committed


They would have to write the code that creates the crime first. And then you can't be guilty of doing something that wasn't a crime at the time.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35081 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Collusion Goalposts are Moving Rapidly


That doesn't mean what you think it means. Also, what the frick is "scandalous beyond a reasonable doubt"? The Atlantic is a joke.
Posted by TurboDogTiger
Triangle, NC
Member since Feb 2007
833 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:00 pm to
There was no collusion

No collusion

No collusion

Collusion is not a crime, but there was no collusion

Even if there was, collusion is not a crime

The only collusion that happened was between Hillary and Russia

Hillary colluded, you're the puppet

Lock her up!

Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10030 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:00 pm to



You’re trying way way too hard
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:00 pm to
I remember when Donnie said no one with his organization talked to the Russians.

Until it was proven they had.

Then he said there was no collusion...

...Now he says that it's not illegal.

Interesting what happens when you catch Donnie in a lie...

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68520 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

But again- if this is a problem for Trump, it’s also a problem for Schiff and Clinton. Contacting foreign countries for oppo research is nothing new.

I get that a lot do it but IF you didn't do then just say that, not "I didn't do it" AND "it's not a crime anyway"
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