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re: FISA Application Breakdown

Posted on 7/22/18 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51917 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 9:45 am to
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What propaganda source did you copy that from?


The Department of Justice.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74678 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 9:46 am to
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What propaganda source did you copy that from?


What a fail
Posted by Pappy82
Metairie
Member since Jul 2016
145 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 9:49 am to
Hey BeefDawg: Thanks for breaking this down. These people need prison time!
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14103 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:08 am to
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Fantastic breakdown, this deserves way more attention and should be stickied



Seconded.

This is the best breakdown of this bullshite I've yet read. Good job. I recovering from surgery and am half asleep and still found it very informative and helpful.

Good job OP. Thanks
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20503 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:26 am to
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What propaganda source did you copy that from?
So you are that stupid.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40717 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:35 am to
Our Favorite President has been Witch Hunt!


It's time to fire Mueller and place him under investigation.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27995 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:37 am to
So Steele leaked the dossier slander in late Sept?

And the FISA wasn't requested until Oct?

And leftists want us to believe that there was an investigation going on . . . . before Hillarys paid for opposition research went public?



Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:40 am to
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It's a big fuk you to the House Republicans. It's similar to the indictments the week of Helsinki. Spin like this is why I love this board Carry on


We love our authoritative government agencies that can run around fabricating information on US citizens without being held in check.

Get fricked you commie. This is Russian government type shite.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:52 am to
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read the entire FISA application and pieced this all together myself.

Notice all the images are on my personal Photobucket account



Damn. That's a slapdown if I ever saw one. LowTboi is in the corner crying.
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
4783 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:59 am to
I demand action now!
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:13 pm to
This is seriously good work.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:17 pm to
It seems very apparent to me that by using four different FISA Judges, they were very clearly Judge shopping, intentionally not returning to a Judge who had previously reviewed the document. Each Judge had to start from scratch and read and understand all of this circular logic.

There should have been a policy that once a FISA Judge gets involved in a case, all subsequent requests should go back to that particular Judge. Common sense obviously does not apply.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45905 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:34 pm to
Any other country, and these people would have been all rounded up already. What's it going to take?
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4741 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:46 pm to
Great thread. This story would be a wet dream for any investigative reporter. Too bad there are only a handful left.
Posted by Armchair_QB
Member since Aug 2013
1512 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:47 pm to
Is Intellectual Bankruptcy grounds for banning? If it’s not, it should be and useless cumstains like TBoy and his kind should be banished immediately.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:48 pm to
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So Steele leaked the dossier slander in late Sept?

And the FISA wasn't requested until Oct?

And leftists want us to believe that there was an investigation going on . . . . before Hillarys paid for opposition research went public?

Yep. The Yahoo/Isikoff article that details Page allegedly meeting with Sechin and Devyekin was printed on Sept. 23rd.

The original FISA application wasn’t approved by Judge Collyer until Oct. 17th.

Steele told the FBI that he “really hated Trump” some time in August. At that same meeting, he got upset about the FBI’s handling of the Dossier and he actually threatened to leak it to the media. He had also already confirmed to them that Glenn Simpson, through Perkins Coie, was his client.

The FBI had to know that Perkins Coie was Hillary’s and the DNC’s goto law firm. They also had to know that Glenn Simpson/Fusion GPS had close ties to Podesta and the Atlantic Council, and had already been working extensively with the Hillary campaign and DNC.

So think about this chain of events...

1. Steele admits his anti-Trump bias, and clearly infers that Hillary and the DNC are his obvious real clients.

2. Steele threatens to leak Dossier details to the media.

3. The FBI still insists Steele is credible.

4. The original application makes no mention of Hillary or the DNC being the likely funders of the Dossier

5. The FBI, knowing Steele threatened to leak, and seeing the Yahoo article has virtually identical details about the alleged meeting with 2 Russians, not only quotes the article as rationale in the application, but they footnote that they “do not believe [Steele] is the source” of the corroborating allegations.

6. Michael Isikoff admitted after the fact that the FBI never called him to even ask who his source might be. So it’s completely asinine for them to have asserted that they didn’t believe Steele was the source.

7. AFTER they got the original application approved, they asked Steele if he leaked to the media, and he admitted he did.

8. This is when they fired him. However, in subsequent renewals, they still insisted Steele was credible, AND... get this... they continued to insist that they did not believe Steele was the source of the Yahoo article.


There are only two possible takeaways from all this... either the FBI are absolute morons and laughably beyond inept and grossly derelict in their duties... or they are crooked as hell dirty cops who lied and broke numerous laws.

Both of which should get them in serious hot water by the FISC and the IG.


If Horowitz next IG report, that is supposed to be about the abuse/improper unmaskings, IC leaks, and the BS in these FISA applications, doesn’t absolutely obliterate all these bad actors, and result in a dozen criminal referrals and actual prosecutions, then we know that Horowitz is nothing but another corrupt swamp creature.

I don’t really know how much longer my blood can boil like this. I’m optimistic, but my growing disappointment is like food for this demoralization I’m trying to fend off. Something’s got to give soon. We can’t live this way.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25113 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:49 pm to
There's way too many big black redaction bars. Way too many. Absolutely ridiculous. They can protect the basic integrity of the so-called "investigation" without so much redaction. We are once again being duped. Nothing new.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:04 pm to
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BeefDawg


You are doing God’s work son. Excellent fricking OP.

These people need to be put in jail, or we Citizens must do what is needed to purge this corrupt government.

MAGA
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32839 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:20 pm to
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There's way too many big black redaction bars. Way too many. Absolutely ridiculous. They can protect the basic integrity of the so-called "investigation" without so much redaction. We are once again being duped. Nothing new.
At this point transparency is more important than the other investigations. The other investigations are all illegitimate if the FBI is compromised.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25416 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Our Favorite President has been Witch Hunt!
Was the Witch Hunt started before or after Obama tapped his wires!

PS - Props to BeefDwag for explaining this in terms all but the most delusion HillDawg supporters and the average seditionist can understand.
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