re: FanGraphs Releases Annual "Industry Consensus" MLB Trade Value Rankings: 1-50

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and I bet if they switched parks, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

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Chapman was terrible on the road last year, he has been better this year, about as good as Nolan is on the road. They are close in age & arenado has the track record. No way in hell Chapman would command more

Trout gonna be a Phillie in 2020.

Chapman actually has 4 more years of control than Arenado.

The bottom line is that rentals (which is what Arenado will be this winter) are losing value in today's game. A. Chapman netted Torres in a very special circumstance, but outside of that who is the last guy with a year or less left before he hit the market who was traded for a big haul? Maybe I'm forgetting someone but all the big hauls I can remember recently have been for guys like Myers, S. Miller, Eaton, Quintana, Sale, etc. who are controlled long term.

Anyone would agree that Altuve is the better player today but he has to provide $100M+ in excess value over the course of his contract to be more valuable than Albies on paper. Do you think age 28-34 Altuve will be worth 12 wins more than 21-26 Albies? If so, then yes he should be ranked ahead of him. I would not bet on that though.

My point is that I think if you polled all 30 GMs I believe the majority would pick $45M for Albies 21-26. Maybe a few teams like the Dodgers or Red Sox who can afford to take the sure thing without money being an object would take Altuve but the majority of teams are going to take Albies and spend that $100M elsewhere.

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I am familiar with the author,baw

Looking at last years list

MIGUEL Sano 25
Michael Fulmer 22
Michael conforto 20
Chris archer 16
Carlos Martinez 13

This is what happens when you put more stock in upside than track record

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It's a different author than last year, and of course there will be laughable rankings with retrospect, but that doesn't mean it wasn't an accurate snapshot of the market at the time.

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and of course there will be laughable rankings with retrospect

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Dude it was just a year ago. It shouldn’t be laughable just yet. Which is funny to me to act like Chapman or Albies are a sure thing over young recent MVP winners

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but that doesn't mean it wasn't an accurate snapshot of the market at the time.

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Young players with good WAR yet no sample size halfway thru a season is not an accurate snapshot of anything. I don’t care who they claim to have talked too. Last years list would have gotten GMs fired. I didn’t even sift thru 30-50

You're right. The guy that wrote this after holding high level positions in baseball and sharing the list with GMs, scouting directors, etc, is clueless and doesn't know the current market value for players.

And I'm not saying you have to agree with everything here, but to act like the list is foolish is just silly.

Phillies GM Klentack interested in Machado in FA, but not as steep rental for a greenhorn team.

IN the end it’s entertainment & for clicks, and I don’t think he shies away from a few reaches for that reason. You can say GMs have input. To what degree & investment, who knows. I respect FG a lot. This is a fun exercise, but some of the picks are silly & it’s pretty easy to put the names together that may not be on it next year.