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Was the dissolution of black families caused by the Govt?
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:36 am
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:36 am
Seeing how the LBJ thread has (predictably) devolved into personal insults, I’d like to hear some opinions (especially from the left) re the cause of declines in black marriage rates.
What was the cause of black marriage rates going from marginally highest in the country prior to 1970 to where they are now? Black Demographics
Was this the intention of the Govt/CIA thru flooding inner cities w drugs?
Was it simply to raise money for covert ops? Was it all a plan to keep minorities in a constant state of poverty, and what would this achieve?
What was the cause of black marriage rates going from marginally highest in the country prior to 1970 to where they are now? Black Demographics
Was this the intention of the Govt/CIA thru flooding inner cities w drugs?
Was it simply to raise money for covert ops? Was it all a plan to keep minorities in a constant state of poverty, and what would this achieve?
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 2:52 am
Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:38 am to 3 Dimes Down
Keeping blacks as dependent on government as possible has been the corner stone of the Democratic party's election strategy for 60 years now.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 3:02 am to 3 Dimes Down
The collapse of the black family is the worst thing that has happened since slavery and even then had a strong family units, yet not one politician or black leader ever acknowledges it.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 3:15 am to 3 Dimes Down
quote:Well, take a look at the voting patterns of the black population since the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Although more Republicans voted for it, the Dems got credit for it because of that POS LBJ.
Was it all a plan to keep minorities in a constant state of poverty, and what would this achieve?
His infamous words:
quote:That was and continues to be the Democratic strategy.
Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963... "These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them naggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years".
"Keep them poor, uneducated and dependent on the government for their existence, and we'll keep their vote."
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:36 am to 3 Dimes Down
Yes. The government public housing projects were to blacks as the reservations were to the Indians.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:10 am to 3 Dimes Down
Yes.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said as much.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said as much.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:20 am to 3 Dimes Down
I firmly believe it is the equivalent of slavery, only in the modern sense. Rather than control by force, it's control by coercion.
The mentality of the master is always the same. They keep their slaves affiliated w/ the group rather than allowing them to be individuals. They kept them from allowing them to learn how to read & write. Why? So they wouldn't think. Same thing today, just a different flavor.
And before I'm called a racist, white trash are on the dependency train too w/ muh disability & failure to marry as well. It isn't racial slavery, it's cultural.
The mentality of the master is always the same. They keep their slaves affiliated w/ the group rather than allowing them to be individuals. They kept them from allowing them to learn how to read & write. Why? So they wouldn't think. Same thing today, just a different flavor.
And before I'm called a racist, white trash are on the dependency train too w/ muh disability & failure to marry as well. It isn't racial slavery, it's cultural.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:47 am to 3 Dimes Down
Yes. Social Programs for the poor especially the welfare program "Aid to Families with Dependent Children" destroyed the traditional black family. The result of this profoundly misguided program was families headed by single mothers on welfare with children fathered by multiple men. Furthermore, the taxpayers were burdened with providing care, in many cases, to generations of welfare moms and kids. Many of the sons and daughters of these welfare families are now wrecking havoc in our inner cities. Along with this was a HUGE increase in the number (110 million) of folks infected with more virulent cases of STD's. Our current population is around 323 million. You do the math.
IMO the entity that benefited most from this destruction of black families is the democrat party. The party gained a permanent class of voters. Democrat operatives like Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee now exploit the party's advantage in the black community by blaming the Republican Party for the poverty in the black community. IMO the fear that haunts the democrat party centers around the very real possibility a significant portion of the black electorate will abandon the party and support DJT in 2020. I firmly believe this is one of the factors driving efforts to remove President Trump from office.
I go back to FDR. I saw the destruction of black families (and white as well) resulting from welfare programs authored by the social engineers in the Democrat Party and government. I will say without reservation what was done to the black families (and white as well) from the destruction by misguided welfare programs borders on criminal.
Thank God we have Donald J. Trump. A man who understands that nothing (no social program, no welfare) is a substitute for gainful employment in a decent job. His position on illegal immigration is driven by the same fear that haunts all working Americans (black and white). That fear being a flood of cheap labor will have the effect of driving down wages and stealing the hope for a decent life for all Americans.
MAGA!
IMO the entity that benefited most from this destruction of black families is the democrat party. The party gained a permanent class of voters. Democrat operatives like Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee now exploit the party's advantage in the black community by blaming the Republican Party for the poverty in the black community. IMO the fear that haunts the democrat party centers around the very real possibility a significant portion of the black electorate will abandon the party and support DJT in 2020. I firmly believe this is one of the factors driving efforts to remove President Trump from office.
I go back to FDR. I saw the destruction of black families (and white as well) resulting from welfare programs authored by the social engineers in the Democrat Party and government. I will say without reservation what was done to the black families (and white as well) from the destruction by misguided welfare programs borders on criminal.
Thank God we have Donald J. Trump. A man who understands that nothing (no social program, no welfare) is a substitute for gainful employment in a decent job. His position on illegal immigration is driven by the same fear that haunts all working Americans (black and white). That fear being a flood of cheap labor will have the effect of driving down wages and stealing the hope for a decent life for all Americans.
MAGA!
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:53 am to 3 Dimes Down
Yes. Both parties share blame but the Republicans have done their best to destroy the black family
Posted on 7/15/18 at 5:56 am to 3 Dimes Down
If you want to make a case for blaming the Gov't for the Crack Epidemic of the 90's,I suppose a case could be made.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:48 am to 3 Dimes Down
quote:LBJ was IMO the most loathsome POTUS in US history. As RFK succinctly put it, LBJ was an animal.
Seeing how the LBJ thread has (predictably) devolved into personal insults
The Moynihan Report of 1965 detailed likely effects of LBJ policy on impoverished Black Families. It was a prescient treatise. LBJ knew that. He understood it for what it was. To forward his "Great Society" he had to undercut the report. So in the classic leftist form of assigning one's own flaws to an opponent, LBJ accused Moynihan of being racist. Considering the two men, it was about comparable to Brezhnev accusing Reagan of being Communist. But it somehow worked. The perceived importance of Moynihan's findings faded.
Along with Moynihan, LBJ anticipated both the devastating effects and their resultant dependency of "Great Society" programs. But unlike Moynihan, LBJ couldn't have cared less about ruining families in the process, as long as he secured votes. He viewed devastation and dependency as ironic constituency creators. It seems he was right.
Upward mobility, opportunity, independence, and success (God forbid) tended to move individuals toward the GOP. Dependency did just the opposite. A secure Democrat voting bloc was LBJ's sole interest in addressing indigent Black Families. He accomplished the task.
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 6:49 am
Posted on 7/15/18 at 7:34 am to 3 Dimes Down
No. However the policies allowed for poor decision makers to make even worse decisions.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 7:59 am to 3 Dimes Down
Laughable statistics. Whites 15 to 17, rarely married. This low age skews everything toward more blacks married than realistically expected. The age should be 18 and older.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 8:02 am to 3 Dimes Down
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Was the dissolution of black families caused by the Govt?
Pruitt-Igoe
Posted on 7/15/18 at 9:47 am to 3 Dimes Down
Thomas Sowell was the first to publish the stats on black marriages declining starting in the late 60s.
I can't remember if he cited any other causes besides welfare's reward for being a single mom.
I do know that white divorces went up during the 60s with the advent of the pill. Children tended to dissuade women from walking out. With no kids it was easier for married women to move on as soon as they found a man they liked better. That's also when 'irreconcilable' became grounds.
I can't remember if he cited any other causes besides welfare's reward for being a single mom.
I do know that white divorces went up during the 60s with the advent of the pill. Children tended to dissuade women from walking out. With no kids it was easier for married women to move on as soon as they found a man they liked better. That's also when 'irreconcilable' became grounds.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 9:56 am to 3 Dimes Down
Just study what Patrick Moynihan said and wrote and then see if he was right. I mean, it’s simple- if you subsidize something, you get more of it. If you replace black men with a government check, don’t be surprised if more black men get replaced by government checks. Liberal good intentions DESTROYED the black family, utterly decimated it. And from that came all the devastating Social Pathologies that we now associate with black life in America. A very sad State- orchestrated outcome.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:48 am to 3 Dimes Down
The welfare state, illegal immigration, declining church attendance and a changing economy are to blame
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