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Some observations on today's Russian indictments

Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Bigtime92
Solsbury Hill
Member since Jan 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:22 pm
1. The DNC refused access of their "hacked" servers to the FBI. The FBI should have taken control of those servers and investigated immediately. It should not have been open for debate. Non-negotiable. Allowing Crowdstrike (3rd party) to look at those servers and provide analysis, which was taken as fact by the FBI, was ridiculous.

2. If the GRU hacked into those systems as claimed, then they possibly gained access through information acquired through Hillary's hacked emails, on her server that she insisted on, against the written agreement she signed as Sec. of State. She should have been charged. She knowingly used her own server. Not negligently, KNOWINGLY.

3. If there is "proof" that the GRU of FSB were actually hacking Democratic Party devices, then the investigation of POTUS is patently false, but this was known when Bob Mueller was given a free hand to investigate anything he wanted, without any crime specified. We all know that the primary basis of the investigation was driven by the dossier and the Fusion GPS Report, bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton. Yet still an investigation.

4.A Friday news dump, coming on the heels of Peter Strzok's testimony from yesterday to counter-attack the disaster for the FBI and DOJ.

5. Furthermore, if all of this transpired as alleged, the Russians are guilty of doing to Clinton, what the FBI did to Trump.

6. I hope Trump flies back from his meeting with Putin with the twelve indicted Russian's, and allows them to stand trial. They will ask for discovery and Mueller will back=peddle again.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69354 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:24 pm to
Here's one nobody talking about:

the hacking took place 2.5 months after george papadoupolous allegedly was told Russia had emails on hrc and boasted about it.

Looks like that mifsud dude was full of shite.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:25 pm to
You seriously are an idiot.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:25 pm to
I know why the imbeciles timed it this way but all they accomplished was giving trump some leverage next week
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3212 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:30 pm to
Another aspect of this I have not heard anyone discuss is this..

Are we expected to believe the Russians were "hacking" the Democrats but not the Republicans?? That is an absurd thought...

Its kinda like the old saying that our military has a plan to kill everyone on the planet...

Russians would be no different with their espionage...

If they did in fact "hack" the DNC, then maybe the DNC needs to hire knew cyber security...
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63650 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:51 pm to
I would love for those Russians to stand trial and be questioned under oath.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40459 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

1. The DNC refused access of their "hacked" servers to the FBI.



This is what I keep coming back to. If the DNC refused to hand over their servers then what are these indictments based on? How does Justice Dept know the Russians hacked the DNC if the DNC never let the FBI investigate the servers? Where is the evidence?
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10585 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:12 pm to
This has more to do with delaying his SCJ pick than anything else.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17059 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

The FBI should have taken control of those servers and investigated immediately. It should not have been open for debate. Non-negotiable. Allowing Crowdstrike (3rd party) to look at those servers and provide analysis, which was taken as fact by the FBI, was ridiculous.


Not sure that's legal. If my house is broken into, I do not have to let the Police investigate. Now, it's possible the FBI could invoke some "national security" provision to force the DNC to comply, but I doubt it.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7441 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Bigtime92


No mention of GRU having hacked voter databases, voter rolls, stealing voter information on 500,000 Americans from unnamed SOS sites, or having hacked a voting machine software manufacturer? Did you omit all this because it doesn't fit your agenda or because you just copied this from some right wing rag?
Posted by Pappy82
Metairie
Member since Jul 2016
145 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:07 pm to
Was not the HRC servers not the Govt Servers but her private servers because she did not want Govt oversight? These servers were not secured. She should be indicted and put in prison. Great observation Bigtime!
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147268 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:08 pm to
TRUMP BETTER CANCEL HIS POOOTIN MEETING OR ELSE HE IS FOR SURES A KGB AGENT.
Posted by NHTigerFan
New Hampshire by way of New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
125 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:24 pm to
Speaking of hack.....
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
12116 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 2:27 pm to
Killery Hillary should be directing the hate into Obama’s failure to act in her behalf......

She should also blame herself for not using U.S. Government servers.......

This investigation instead is directed against Trump who had no power ti stop such hacking.......

So go frick yourself Mueller and RR you are two of th3 biggest POSs in U.S. and need to be fired.....



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