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re: Question for the "legalize all drugs" crowd.

Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:26 am to
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21946 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:26 am to
Give it all away. Darwin will take care of the losers. I'm tried of dope addicts stealing shite out our neighborhood.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:38 am to
I support making all prescription opiates completely illegal, prison sentence for vicodin and stuff like that, life penalty or just death penalty for heroin. Maybe we can send all the heroin users to Puerto Rico or something if we decide killing them isn't moral enough
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:52 am to
Legalize it all. If some dumb arse wants to inject heroine in his eye ball then I say let him.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3717 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:57 am to
Portugal
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24988 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:06 pm to
I'm for the legalization of mj only right now. I use it just like a person uses beer. Golfing and relaxing around the house.

Heroine and opioids are a little different to me. Highly addictive and more life altering in my opinion. I don't mess with the hard stuff because I understand how addictive they are and once hooked, can really frick your life up. Your life becomes "how do I get more NOW". I'll admit I've never tried heroine, meth, etc, but I think I pretty much understand their possibilities. Have a friend recovering from opioid addiction. He lost his wife and job during his addiction.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73521 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

I can somewhat see the legalization of marijuana, but what about the hard drugs like heroin?

We've already got a herion epidemic in some parts of the country. What the frick you think will happen if it's legalized?

I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?


This is a stupid BamaAtl argument.

Take it back.
Posted by BadAgg7
Member since Aug 2015
1717 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:44 pm to
let these people kill themselves.

i think doing hard drugs is wrong, but people do them anyway. i say make it easy.

i don't agree with abortion, but if someone wants to kill their offspring it isn't necessarily all bad. good that we won't have another person that'll be like them.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31803 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:56 pm to
A) like i give a frick if they kill themselves

B) do you really think people who want to do herion aren't doing it because " oh its illegal, I can't do that"

its an assinine arguement that people don't use hard drugs because they are illegal. I grew up in a household with a drug head mom and it was routine to find her passed out or walking around like a zombie. She didn't give a shite if it was illegal or legal, if she wanted a fix she was going to go get it. its the same with everyone else.

don't believe me? ask yourself this, if herion was made legal tomorrow, would you run out and try it? what about your respectable middle and upper class friends? The answer is frick no, because people don't skip out on herion because its illegal, they do it because its god damn herion and people(even the most ignorant amongst us) know what the hell it does to you.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

I can somewhat see the legalization of marijuana, but what about the hard drugs like heroin?

We've already got a herion epidemic in some parts of the country. What the frick you think will happen if it's legalized?

I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?
Schoolkids? Absolutely not. Legally-competent adults, absolutely.

Same applies to motorcycle helmets, seatbelts, bungee jumping, scuba diving or auto-erotic asphyxiation. It is your body, do whatever you want with it.

With the caveat that the taxpayer does not pay the bill for your inevitable fark-up and that insurance companies have every right to write their policies in a way that excludes coverage for your risky activities.

In anticipation of the inevitable "what if" chorus, yes that also includes smoking/obesity and coverage for their related healthcare costs.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33974 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

We've already got a herion epidemic in some parts of the country. What the frick you think will happen if it's legalized?



1) Legalization would decrease the supply of heroin, not increase it. The risk inherent in smuggling it is what makes it so expensive and, therefore, profitable. Remove the risk, the price will fall to the point where it makes no sense to import it at all.

2) The epidemic is not a "heroin epidemic." It is an "opioid epidemic." This is an important distinction because most people get hooked on legal, prescribed opioids like oxycontin, and move to heroin only when they no longer have access to the legal stuff. If you want to fix the opioid epidemic, you need to look at doctors who prescribe it and pharmaceutical corporations who manufacture it and incentivize its prescription by the doctors.

Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Maybe the USA can learn something from Portugal, where all drugs were decriminalized in 2001? Compared to Portugal,  drug overdose deaths per million in neighboring Spain are 2.5X as high, 3.5X as high in the EU, 10X as high in the UK and 31X as high in the USA.


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Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:39 pm to
Let's start with legalization of marijuana as a first step. Regulate and tax it as we do alcohol.

Frankly, even if it was legal, I wouldn't smoke marijuana unless I had medical condition that marijuana had been proven to help. Even though the smoke from marijuana is supposed to be less damaging than smoke from tobacco, I prefer not to gunk-up my lungs with either.

I suppose THC in general would be legalized at the same time.

Let's see what happens after ten years of THC-marijuana legalization. If, as proponents say, overall drug abuse goes down then there might be other legalizations or de-criminalizations, down the pike. If, as opponents say, drug abuse and other drug related problems increase, the step needs to be rethought.

My prediction would be that there will be little change in either direction and both sides will have "studies" that prove they are correct.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:41 pm to
I only support blanket legalization if it’s accompanied by abolition of welfare state
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:42 pm to
I don’t care what people do to themselves of their own freewill. For over 100 years heroin was legal before the government decided it needed to tell people what to do and save them from themselves.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?



That's quite the leap. There would still be age restrictions, like with anything else
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19751 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?
natural selection. At least they wont be voting
Posted by razorbackpat
Member since Nov 2016
230 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:40 pm to
not reading 13 pages.....legalize but harshly punish. if you are on heroin with kids around you lose the kids and are severely punished. regulation is key.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5500 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:57 pm to
Portugal decriminalized. Seems to be working.

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Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35578 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:02 pm to
Just a PSA:

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49122 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:00 pm to
We aren't stopping anyone from doing them. Just criminalizing addiction. The war on drugs has been a total failure.

But no I don't think you should have people doing heroin in the street either.
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