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re: Question for the "legalize all drugs" crowd.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:26 am to bhtigerfan
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:26 am to bhtigerfan
Give it all away. Darwin will take care of the losers. I'm tried of dope addicts stealing shite out our neighborhood.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:38 am to bhtigerfan
I support making all prescription opiates completely illegal, prison sentence for vicodin and stuff like that, life penalty or just death penalty for heroin. Maybe we can send all the heroin users to Puerto Rico or something if we decide killing them isn't moral enough
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 11:39 am
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:52 am to bhtigerfan
Legalize it all. If some dumb arse wants to inject heroine in his eye ball then I say let him.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:06 pm to bhtigerfan
I'm for the legalization of mj only right now. I use it just like a person uses beer. Golfing and relaxing around the house.
Heroine and opioids are a little different to me. Highly addictive and more life altering in my opinion. I don't mess with the hard stuff because I understand how addictive they are and once hooked, can really frick your life up. Your life becomes "how do I get more NOW". I'll admit I've never tried heroine, meth, etc, but I think I pretty much understand their possibilities. Have a friend recovering from opioid addiction. He lost his wife and job during his addiction.
Heroine and opioids are a little different to me. Highly addictive and more life altering in my opinion. I don't mess with the hard stuff because I understand how addictive they are and once hooked, can really frick your life up. Your life becomes "how do I get more NOW". I'll admit I've never tried heroine, meth, etc, but I think I pretty much understand their possibilities. Have a friend recovering from opioid addiction. He lost his wife and job during his addiction.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:35 pm to bhtigerfan
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I can somewhat see the legalization of marijuana, but what about the hard drugs like heroin?
We've already got a herion epidemic in some parts of the country. What the frick you think will happen if it's legalized?
I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?
This is a stupid BamaAtl argument.
Take it back.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:44 pm to bhtigerfan
let these people kill themselves.
i think doing hard drugs is wrong, but people do them anyway. i say make it easy.
i don't agree with abortion, but if someone wants to kill their offspring it isn't necessarily all bad. good that we won't have another person that'll be like them.
i think doing hard drugs is wrong, but people do them anyway. i say make it easy.
i don't agree with abortion, but if someone wants to kill their offspring it isn't necessarily all bad. good that we won't have another person that'll be like them.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:56 pm to bhtigerfan
A) like i give a frick if they kill themselves
B) do you really think people who want to do herion aren't doing it because " oh its illegal, I can't do that"
its an assinine arguement that people don't use hard drugs because they are illegal. I grew up in a household with a drug head mom and it was routine to find her passed out or walking around like a zombie. She didn't give a shite if it was illegal or legal, if she wanted a fix she was going to go get it. its the same with everyone else.
don't believe me? ask yourself this, if herion was made legal tomorrow, would you run out and try it? what about your respectable middle and upper class friends? The answer is frick no, because people don't skip out on herion because its illegal, they do it because its god damn herion and people(even the most ignorant amongst us) know what the hell it does to you.
B) do you really think people who want to do herion aren't doing it because " oh its illegal, I can't do that"
its an assinine arguement that people don't use hard drugs because they are illegal. I grew up in a household with a drug head mom and it was routine to find her passed out or walking around like a zombie. She didn't give a shite if it was illegal or legal, if she wanted a fix she was going to go get it. its the same with everyone else.
don't believe me? ask yourself this, if herion was made legal tomorrow, would you run out and try it? what about your respectable middle and upper class friends? The answer is frick no, because people don't skip out on herion because its illegal, they do it because its god damn herion and people(even the most ignorant amongst us) know what the hell it does to you.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:07 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:Schoolkids? Absolutely not. Legally-competent adults, absolutely.
I can somewhat see the legalization of marijuana, but what about the hard drugs like heroin?
We've already got a herion epidemic in some parts of the country. What the frick you think will happen if it's legalized?
I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?
Same applies to motorcycle helmets, seatbelts, bungee jumping, scuba diving or auto-erotic asphyxiation. It is your body, do whatever you want with it.
With the caveat that the taxpayer does not pay the bill for your inevitable fark-up and that insurance companies have every right to write their policies in a way that excludes coverage for your risky activities.
In anticipation of the inevitable "what if" chorus, yes that also includes smoking/obesity and coverage for their related healthcare costs.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:32 pm to bhtigerfan
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We've already got a herion epidemic in some parts of the country. What the frick you think will happen if it's legalized?
1) Legalization would decrease the supply of heroin, not increase it. The risk inherent in smuggling it is what makes it so expensive and, therefore, profitable. Remove the risk, the price will fall to the point where it makes no sense to import it at all.
2) The epidemic is not a "heroin epidemic." It is an "opioid epidemic." This is an important distinction because most people get hooked on legal, prescribed opioids like oxycontin, and move to heroin only when they no longer have access to the legal stuff. If you want to fix the opioid epidemic, you need to look at doctors who prescribe it and pharmaceutical corporations who manufacture it and incentivize its prescription by the doctors.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:11 pm to bhtigerfan
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Maybe the USA can learn something from Portugal, where all drugs were decriminalized in 2001? Compared to Portugal, drug overdose deaths per million in neighboring Spain are 2.5X as high, 3.5X as high in the EU, 10X as high in the UK and 31X as high in the USA.
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:39 pm to bhtigerfan
Let's start with legalization of marijuana as a first step. Regulate and tax it as we do alcohol.
Frankly, even if it was legal, I wouldn't smoke marijuana unless I had medical condition that marijuana had been proven to help. Even though the smoke from marijuana is supposed to be less damaging than smoke from tobacco, I prefer not to gunk-up my lungs with either.
I suppose THC in general would be legalized at the same time.
Let's see what happens after ten years of THC-marijuana legalization. If, as proponents say, overall drug abuse goes down then there might be other legalizations or de-criminalizations, down the pike. If, as opponents say, drug abuse and other drug related problems increase, the step needs to be rethought.
My prediction would be that there will be little change in either direction and both sides will have "studies" that prove they are correct.
Frankly, even if it was legal, I wouldn't smoke marijuana unless I had medical condition that marijuana had been proven to help. Even though the smoke from marijuana is supposed to be less damaging than smoke from tobacco, I prefer not to gunk-up my lungs with either.
I suppose THC in general would be legalized at the same time.
Let's see what happens after ten years of THC-marijuana legalization. If, as proponents say, overall drug abuse goes down then there might be other legalizations or de-criminalizations, down the pike. If, as opponents say, drug abuse and other drug related problems increase, the step needs to be rethought.
My prediction would be that there will be little change in either direction and both sides will have "studies" that prove they are correct.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:41 pm to bhtigerfan
I only support blanket legalization if it’s accompanied by abolition of welfare state
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:42 pm to bhtigerfan
I don’t care what people do to themselves of their own freewill. For over 100 years heroin was legal before the government decided it needed to tell people what to do and save them from themselves.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:52 pm to bhtigerfan
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I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?
That's quite the leap. There would still be age restrictions, like with anything else
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:21 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:natural selection. At least they wont be voting
I'm not ready to see high school kids shooting up heroin. Are you?
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:40 pm to bhtigerfan
not reading 13 pages.....legalize but harshly punish. if you are on heroin with kids around you lose the kids and are severely punished. regulation is key.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:57 pm to bhtigerfan
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:00 pm to bhtigerfan
We aren't stopping anyone from doing them. Just criminalizing addiction. The war on drugs has been a total failure.
But no I don't think you should have people doing heroin in the street either.
But no I don't think you should have people doing heroin in the street either.
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