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re: LSU #3 in recruiting

Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:46 am to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:46 am to
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Says the guy that started three threads alone just today


Okay, you ARE VERY weird. You count how many LSU threads I start? Wow, I guess you really hate that.

Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31192 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:50 am to
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Okay, you ARE VERY weird. You count how many LSU threads I start?




Where did I say I count how many threads you start? It's easy to see. And recently the ones that go on for 10+ pages are generally tied to the same author. Not saying that's a bad thing. It's just not hard to not see. Still not sure why you're throwing fits saying I hate this and hate that and telling me to shut the F up is all about when it was just a simple question that was asked.


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I guess you really hate that.



I do? Where did I suggest this?


Are you afraid of making a prediction? It's just a guess. Goodness.

I'm really asking because you dance around the question at all costs. You will not answer the question. It's nuts.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 2:06 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
15039 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:05 am to
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So before last week, the small band of negative, miserable fans were complaining about last class with no CB's, Lack of stars, and class ranking.
- lack of a BU plan with Surtain bothered me, a.k.a. Goodrich

- Lack of stars: meh, I was happy with holes filled that needed filling desperately in some cases. Coulda been better, wasn't unhappy

- class ranking: if the backup plan for Surtain and the early signing period/hard limit had been managed better the ranking would've been better. Class ranking is an aggregate of several net results, such as above, and isn't in itself a goal or result. I see no reason to complain about it, but only the pieces of the aggregate.

- you did leave out one thing, JUCO/transfer moves: pretty damn good recovery on the JUCO market with Lewis, Cole Tracy and (with high hopes AND expectations) Burrow being the trophy. Alexander and Traore are TBD.
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Some of you just can't make it a day without btching about something.
I reserve the right to complain when I see something can be done better. However I, and many others, aren't Rantifa nor are any of these puzzle piece singular facts signs of the Opocalypse.

I like how this class is shaping up. Yes, I'm greedy and always want more/better. I'll never be fully satisfied. But I will always be happy about good things. For example, I hope they handle the Dec signing period better- I expect it; they should learn from previous mistakes. On the other hand, if they do this is probably going to be a very good class.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
94641 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:34 am to
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I would LOVE to see just ONE post of someone saying recruiting rankings don't matter. You have one?? 

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You have one of the MANY posts claiming recruiting rankings don't matter?? I'm sure there are so many you won't have trouble finding one

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beauchristopheron 5/12/18 at 10:40 am

The rankings are silly.



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- La man66on 5/11/18 at 6:04 pm

Stars don't mean shite...


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Posted by GatorRaiderBait on 4/29/18 at 4:39 pm to Hamma1122

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Stars don’t matter


This. 

So many of these guys get caught up with the hype of being a 4 and 5 start.



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Posted by Hamma1122 on 4/29/18 at 4:32 pm to K_Tiger

Stars don’t matter



That's not to mention the countless times you've posted about how inaccurate the services are only to turn around and use the fact that Moss was ranked 123rd nationally to prove your point that Orgeron is bringing talent.


Your turn to produce proof of someone saying they want LSU to lose.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9745 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:56 am to
It's gonna take a huge effort to get Sopsher.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11016 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:16 am to
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Why? what has changed? How is this year's LSU team any different from last year?


So now you’re implying Orgeron has NOT improved the team?

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Is Alabama going to be worse this year? Is Auburn (road game) going to be worse? Is Miami going to be worse? Is Georgia going to be worse? What has happened to LSU's opponents that makes you demand a 10-2 record for LSU?


So NOW we are looking at opponent strength? After all your talk of how the people pointing out all the opponents that had bad records and fired their coaches were just “hating LSU” or “being miserable,” now you want to use opponent strength for your argument?

I remember not too long ago under Les when the rant narrative was “any idiot can win 10 games at LSU,” now you act like it’s asking for some miracle.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2145 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:27 am to
Good news and original topic-- LSU is ranked #3 in recruiting! Just trying to get back on task.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:51 am to
How many have signed a LOI?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
37668 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:27 am to
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but if they did matter in 2018, then they matter now!!!


is that how it works too?

you realize how fricking dumb this is


RB10 got it, but on that note:

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RB10




But to answer your post, I'm not saying how I think, I'm saying what the tenor of the argument is, that's more important than any individual opinion. They did matter then and they matter now. He had a mediocre finish in 2018, which is a huge concern, but he's on a nice run that bodes well for the future. That doesn't eliminate the possible problems, and it doesn't mean that he's going to finish in the top 10, but it's good to see well regarded recruits coming on board.


It also doesn't mean that O has suddenly turned it around and can immediately be considered a top tier coach. We are far from that as well. This is being presented as a "gotcha! O is an amazing coach" not as a discussion of good news.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 8:27 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
37668 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:28 am to
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That's not to mention the countless times you've posted about how inaccurate the services are only to turn around and use the fact that Moss was ranked 123rd nationally to prove your point that Orgeron is bringing talent.


Your turn to produce proof of someone saying they want LSU to lose.



Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:55 am to
“destroyed our lines”

The LSU rush attack in 2015 was #1 in the SEC and #14 in the nation. The LSU rush attack in 2017, almost 2 yrs after the staff change, was 5th in the SEC and 33rd in the nation.

The LSU D against the rush in 2015 was 3rd in the SEC and 14th in the nation. The LSU D against the rush, almost 2 yrs after the change was 24th in the nation and 3rd in the SEC.

I think it’s pretty obvious that your statements are more than a tad over the top. Of course, my Sarcasm meter might be off.

Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:59 am to
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It's gonna take a huge effort to get Sopsher.

That’s disappointing to hear all these other guys from la want to be tigers
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:03 am to
Chill snow flakes, LSU will be fine!!!
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45041 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:24 am to
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quote:
I would LOVE to see just ONE post of someone saying recruiting rankings don't matter. You have one??


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You have one of the MANY posts claiming recruiting rankings don't matter?? I'm sure there are so many you won't have trouble finding one


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beauchristopheron 5/12/18 at 10:40 am

The rankings are silly.


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- La man66on 5/11/18 at 6:04 pm

Stars don't mean shite...

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Posted by GatorRaiderBait on 4/29/18 at 4:39 pm to Hamma1122

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Stars don’t matter


This.

So many of these guys get caught up with the hype of being a 4 and 5 start.


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Posted by Hamma1122 on 4/29/18 at 4:32 pm to K_Tiger

Stars don’t matter


That's not to mention the countless times you've posted about how inaccurate the services are only to turn around and use the fact that Moss was ranked 123rd nationally to prove your point that Orgeron is bringing talent.


Your turn to produce proof of someone saying they want LSU to lose.


Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:24 am to
“the guy”

It seems as though you are trying to imply that a staff coach (2015) in charge of the DL and In charge of recruiting , intern coach for a period of time, and now head coach for a period time had no responsibility over the depth or recruiting players for LSU until he was Officially named head coach.To think that is simply silly and totally agenda driven.

It’s amusing to me that no one was using some supposed lack of talent or lack of depth as an excuse for LSU play until the Mississippi State game. But suddenly after two of the most embarrassing losses in the last 15 years, LSU found itself less talented than Troy.

Really, we have to be college football intellectually challenged to buy into that BS. imo
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 9:34 am
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9745 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:00 am to
LSU is gonna have to actually beat Bama on the field to start keeping elite talent home
Posted by lilmoonlsu
Member since Jan 2015
671 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:08 am to
If you take out the kicker, long snapper and TE who is not ranked LSU has an 91.1 avg.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8763 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:13 am to
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So class rankings do matter this week?

Yes, they always matter. But if you're only top 15 or so, generally you still have the potential to compete with anyone as long as you can develop and/or have some coaching--that is, it's not the end of the world. You want better, but it's more or less generally "fine." Top 5, though? Even better.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:19 am to
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If you take out the kicker, long snapper and TE who is not ranked LSU has an 91.1 avg.



and if you take out the top 5 we have committed the average would drop to 86.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:29 am to
Kendall M offer list is meh but if aranda likes him then I trust him
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