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True or False, the money Iran got was their own money "released"
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:27 pm
I see libs running to Obama's defense...
"Obama only let Iran have their own money back since other criteria had been met in diplomacy negotiations"
I just want the truth, does anyone know what really took place?
I hate our freaking media...we don't know who is giving us straight talk.
"Obama only let Iran have their own money back since other criteria had been met in diplomacy negotiations"
I just want the truth, does anyone know what really took place?
I hate our freaking media...we don't know who is giving us straight talk.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:28 pm to ApexTiger
Partially true but frick Iran; how much money have they cost us over the years?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:29 pm to ApexTiger
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:30 pm to ApexTiger
Never give money to terrorists either way.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:30 pm to ApexTiger
To an extent, true. 150B (as some have estimated) was frozen assets. The 1.8B cash was supposedly reimbursement for a pre-revolution arms deal that was never fully executed.
But what did we really give up with the NoKo summit other than shaving off military excercises? Comparatively cheaper and as others have pointed out, we didn’t release funds to a regime that funnels that cash to potential threats.
But what did we really give up with the NoKo summit other than shaving off military excercises? Comparatively cheaper and as others have pointed out, we didn’t release funds to a regime that funnels that cash to potential threats.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:31 pm to DelU249
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even if it was their money, who cares?
we had it, and we gave it to them...in exchange for?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:31 pm to ApexTiger
True, BUT we also, in addition, gave them 1.8 billion in cash.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:31 pm to DelU249
quote:if it was their money, why did we have it?
even if it was their money, who cares?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:31 pm to DelU249
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we had it, and we gave it to them...in exchange for?
Dick. Nada. Nothing.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:32 pm to goatmilker
Did we get our embassy back?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:34 pm to ApexTiger
so they grabbed hostages at our embassy so,we grabbed their cash. Also they were building some of IED's that were used in Afghanistan and Iraq, so f them.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:34 pm to ApexTiger
LINK
It was their money. We stole it from them when they deposed the dictator we installed to prevent them from nationalizing their petroleum market.
I absolutely HATE these neocons that constantly want to beat the war drum against Iran.
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In November 1979, Iran’s revolutionary government took 52 Americans hostages at the U.S. embassy, and the U.S. severed diplomatic relations with Tehran. In retaliation, Washington froze $12 billion in Iranian assets held on our shores. The hostage crisis was resolved in 1981 at a conference in Algiers, and the U.S. returned $3 billion to Iran, with more funds going either to pay creditors, or into escrow. The two nations also established a tribunal in the Hague called the Iran United States Claims Tribunal to settle claims both leveled by each government against the other, U.S. citizens versus Iran, and vice versa.
The major issue between the two governments was a $400 million payment for military equipment made by the government of the Shah of Iran, prior to the 1979 uprising that topped him. The U.S. banned delivery of the jets and other weapons amid the hostage crisis, but froze the $400 million advance payment. “The Pentagon handled arms purchases from foreign countries,” says Gary Sick, a former National Security Council official who served as the principal White House aide for Iran during the Iranian Revolution and the hostage crisis. “Defense took care of the details. So the $400 million scheduled purchase was a government-to-government transaction. The U.S. government was holding the money. That’s why it was so difficult to resolve.”
By 2015, the issue stood before a panel of nine judges, including three independent jurists, who were reportedly near a decision on binding arbitration. According to Obama administration officials, the U.S. was concerned that the tribunal would mandate an award in the multiple billions of dollars. “The Iranians wanted $10 billion,” says Sick.”I estimate that the tribunal would have awarded them $4 billion. That’s what the lawyers were saying. It’s not as much as they wanted, but a lot more than we paid.”
So instead, the U.S. negotiators convinced Iran to move the dispute from arbitration to a private settlement. The two sides reached an agreement in mid-2015, at the same time as the U.S. and Iran reached a comprehensive pact on curtailing Iran’s development of nuclear weapons. The financial deal called for the U.S. to refund $1.7 billion to Tehran, consisting of the original $400 million contract for military equipment, plus $1.3 billion in interest.
It was their money. We stole it from them when they deposed the dictator we installed to prevent them from nationalizing their petroleum market.
I absolutely HATE these neocons that constantly want to beat the war drum against Iran.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:35 pm to bmy
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It is true
ok be specific about the truth
how much was held and who authorized it
why did we hold it in the first place
where was it held
how many billions have we given them over the last 40 years? Just take a good guess, thanks
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:36 pm to ApexTiger
The money/assets were seized and frozen in 1979. A large portion was returned in 1981. The remainder stayed seized and $400MM from the sale of Iranian assets was put into an escrow account.
Payment for the hostage situation in my mind.
Payment for the hostage situation in my mind.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:36 pm to ApexTiger
Yes and no.
Yes in that the money belonged to the Shah’s pre-revolutionary government for weapons never delivered.
No in that Iran still has not paid reparations to the US or any hostages over the hostage crisis of the late 70s.
I conflate the two and feel that the money should have been split between the government and the hostages / estates of the hostages.
Yes in that the money belonged to the Shah’s pre-revolutionary government for weapons never delivered.
No in that Iran still has not paid reparations to the US or any hostages over the hostage crisis of the late 70s.
I conflate the two and feel that the money should have been split between the government and the hostages / estates of the hostages.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:38 pm to CarRamrod
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:38 pm to ApexTiger
Yeah it was their money but giving it back to them is like giving back a drug king who has been in prison for 10 years his money back that was confiscated the day he was arrested. It's all nefarious shite going on either way.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:41 pm to Jorts R Us
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