Spinoff: Seat belts vs Motorcycle Helmets

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It blows my mind that currently only 19 states require you to wear helmet on a motorcycle

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Maybe they are hoping for less bikers on the road. A net positive imo.

Straight up insurance lobby. You are less likely to need long term care in a car accident while wearing a seatbelt.

It is cheaper for them in a motorcycle wreck to pay the death benefit than to pay for long term care.

As a rider - frick all of you that wish for motorcyclists to be dead while texting, yelling at your kids and balancing a 60oz drink and double cheeseburger in your lap while you drive.

I think it’s dumb to ride without a helmet or seatbelt. I also think it’s dumb for the state to compel me to do either.

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As a rider - frick all of you that wish for motorcyclists to be dead while texting, yelling at your kids and balancing a 60oz drink and double cheeseburger in your lap while you drive.

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Ok champ, I will remember that as you fly by me at 95 mph while white lining it between two cars

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As a rider - frick all of you that wish for motorcyclists to be dead while texting, yelling at your kids and balancing a 60oz drink and double cheeseburger in your lap while you drive.

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Well then, since we're generalizing: as a driver, frick you lane splitting, engine revving, SOA wannabe douchebags who swerve in and out of lanes at 120 mph, 8 inches in front of my bumper which causes an extremely unsafe situation for me and every other driver on the road.

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Then you should be denied and insurance when you're ejected face first into a tree.

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I wear a seatbelt. I dont need the govt telling me to wear one though

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Deal?

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Sure. The insurance company should be able to put clauses like this

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Ok champ, I will remember that as you fly by me at 95 mph while white lining it between two cars

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There’s dicks on both sides -

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They can't because a judge is unable to disclose to a jury if the accident victim was wearing a seat belt. See Seat Belt Gag Order.

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Ok that is a separate law worth discussing


Doesnt mean the seatbelt law inst govt overreach

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It blows my mind people think the govt should be able to make laws regarding ones own personal safety that has no outcome on anyone else

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It absolutely affects other people if you aren't wearing a seatbelt.

1. If you are wearing a seatbelt it is far easier to maintain control of your vehicle during sudden maneuvering. You can't steer well if you're flying across the cabin or flying through a windshield.

2. A seatbelt lowers the cost to the city of responding to the accident. Sending an ambulance costs more than you think.

3. Suppose you are hospitalized but don't have enough insurance. You will still receive care, but someone has to pay for it. But if you'd been belted in the cost will be lower if anything.

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It absolutely affects other people if you aren't wearing a seatbelt.

1. If you are wearing a seatbelt it is far easier to maintain control of your vehicle during sudden maneuvering. You can't steer well if you're flying across the cabin or flying through a windshield.

2. A seatbelt lowers the cost to the city of responding to the accident. Sending an ambulance costs more than you think.

3. Suppose you are hospitalized but don't have enough insurance. You will still receive care, but someone has to pay for it. But if you'd been belted in the cost will be lower if anything.

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Ok.


Now try this gymnastics with the helmet law