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Is it possible for two people to simultaneously sexually assault each other?
Posted on 6/2/18 at 6:43 am
Posted on 6/2/18 at 6:43 am
Title IX Is Too Easy to Abuse
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A Title IX case at the University of Cincinnati—rife with legal, anatomical, and emotional improbabilities—illustrates the potential excesses of policing sex on campus.
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Is it possible for two people to simultaneously sexually assault each other? This is the question—rife with legal, anatomical, and emotional improbabilities—to which the University of Cincinnati now addresses itself, and with some urgency, as the institution and three of its employees are currently being sued over an encounter that was sexual for a brief moment, but that just as quickly entered the realm of eternal return. The one important thing you need to know about the case is that according to the lawsuit, a woman has been indefinitely suspended from college because she let a man touch her vagina. What kind of sexually repressive madness could have allowed for this to happen? Answer that question and you will go a long way toward answering the question, “What the hell is happening on American college campuses?”
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The event in précis, as summarized by Robby Soave of Reason magazine:
“Male and female student have a drunken hookup. He wakes up, terrified she's going to file a sexual misconduct complaint, so he goes to the Title IX office and beats her to the punch. She is found guilty and suspended.”
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By some kind of weird alchemy involving the sum of its parts, this strange little event manages to hit upon almost every troubling aspect of the way that these cases are interpreted and punished on the contemporary campus. It proceeds from the assumption that if two drunk college students make out, one of them—and only one of them—is a victim of the event.
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In other words—college students and administrators take note—the days of blaming one person (almost always the man) for a no-harm, no foul, mutually drunken hook up may be coming to an end. It was a ridiculous standard, one that that infantilized college women, demonized male sexuality, and was responsible for harsh punishment meted out to an unknown number of college students, almost all of them male. It trivialized something grave: sex crime. And because it poured all of these experiences through an interpretive system that forced women into the role of passive victims and men in that of aggressive predators, it has helped stoke understandable resentment among young men on campuses across the country.
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Now, in many regards, universities monitor the sexuality of their students more intrusively than in the 1950s. There are fulltime employees of American universities whose job is to sit young people down and interrogate them about when and where and how they touched another person sexually, and how it felt, and what signs and sounds and words and gestures made them believe that consent had been granted. This was how homosexuals used to be thrown out of schools and sports teams and the military; this is how young women were punished for acting on their sexual impulses by a wide variety of American institutions in the past. This is beyond the overreach of the modern university; this is an affront to the most essential and irreducible of all of the American ideas: the freedom of the individual.
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That time is coming again on American campuses, as the strongest and smartest and bravest among the students are beginning to realize that the beliefs and practices that dominate these places are irrational and hugely political. These new students are waking up, resisting, fighting back, in all sorts of areas of college life.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 6:45 am to StringedInstruments
You better lawyer up, baw.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 6:57 am to StringedInstruments
Only if it’s two underage innocent daddy’s little girls, who got drunk did splits on each other like crabs then both claimed they were taken advantage of by each other.. if a male is involved in anyways he is guilty by default
This post was edited on 6/2/18 at 7:37 am
Posted on 6/2/18 at 7:04 am to StringedInstruments
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Male and female student have a drunken hookup. He wakes up, terrified she's going to file a sexual misconduct complaint, so he goes to the Title IX office and beats her to the punch. She is found guilty and suspended.”
My, my, my. How the turn tables.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 7:15 am to StringedInstruments
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The event in précis, as summarized by Robby Soave of Reason magazine:
“Male and female student have a drunken hookup. He wakes up, terrified she's going to file a sexual misconduct complaint, so he goes to the Title IX office and beats her to the punch. She is found guilty and suspended.”
Someone put their thinking cap on even while being hungover.
Unfortunately its the only way to protect himself in the current environment.
Eta, found this little nugget
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But the lawsuit filed by the young woman introduces a complicated subplot. Both students are members of the campus ROTC, it says, and the young woman previously accused a third ROTC student of sexual misconduct. The suit claims that this produced a Title IX complaint, and forced the discharge of her alleged assailant from the ROTC program.
This post was edited on 6/2/18 at 7:19 am
Posted on 6/2/18 at 7:34 am to StringedInstruments
All I can say is that I'm glad that I am married.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 7:36 am to NYNolaguy1
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the young woman previously accused a third ROTC student of sexual misconduct.
This is why t-boy freaked out.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 7:43 am to StringedInstruments
What if a student doesn't adhere to the safe word with a kinky teacher
Posted on 6/2/18 at 7:55 am to Jyrdis
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My, my, my. How the turn tables.
yep. and now that he flipped the script, we should open a dialog about how unfair it could possibly be that 100s if not 1000s of young men were expelled from schools because of this same bullshite even when found not guilty of anything criminally.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 9:41 am to StringedInstruments
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“Male and female student have a drunken hookup. He wakes up, terrified she's going to file a sexual misconduct complaint, so he goes to the Title IX office and beats her to the punch. She is found guilty and suspended.”
Savage.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:51 am to rsbd
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if a male is involved in anyways he is guilty by default
Unless she probed him anally
Posted on 6/2/18 at 10:54 am to NYNolaguy1
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“Male and female student have a drunken hookup. He wakes up, terrified she's going to file a sexual misconduct complaint, so he goes to the Title IX office and beats her to the punch. She is found guilty and suspended.”
My fraternity now makes this move a requirement of all pledges to become actives
This post was edited on 6/2/18 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/2/18 at 11:10 am to StringedInstruments
It’s only a matter of time before someone gets kicked out of school for sexually assaulting themselves.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 12:07 pm to coolpapaboze
quote:And, sadly, there are probably idiots out there actually contemplating this eventuality.
It’s only a matter of time before someone gets kicked out of school for sexually assaulting themselves.
Posted on 6/2/18 at 12:16 pm to StringedInstruments
We are all victims here of assault by a Great Wall of Text!
:whew:
:whew:
Posted on 6/2/18 at 12:19 pm to StringedInstruments
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Is it possible for two people to simultaneously sexually assault each other?
I don't know but that sounds pretty fricking hot.
This post was edited on 6/2/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 6/2/18 at 12:26 pm to RockAndRollDetective
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Is it possible for two people to simultaneously sexually assault each other?
I dated a German swimmer in college and it is DEFINITELY possible. She was not averse to inflicting pain
Posted on 6/2/18 at 2:42 pm to Upperdecker
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Unless she probed him anally
She was forced
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