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Big 4 Accounting Firms - Anybody with experience?

Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:55 am
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:55 am
Lining up an initial phone interview with PwC after acceptance of my application. The position I’ve applied for is a Healthcare Consulting Associate. I’m currently in healthcare for a large regional hospital system as an analyst. Overall I’ve been in healthcare for over 5 years now.

Anyone with experience as an employee or interviewee with PwC or others in the big 4 with any advice on interview and/or work experience?

TIA
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:12 am to
You will work long hours but it is great experience. I miss it in a weird way.

They are looking for someone they don’t mind spending long hours with, so just try and be yourself and portray someone who is good to work with.

In other words, they really hire personalities. They will give you ample training to succeed.

Good luck.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:15 am to
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You will work long hours


I work for a big 4 in more of a consulting type role. My hours aren't really that bad. Audit, yes, it's horrible, but consulting type stuff isn't outrageous in my experience and many of my college friends and colleagues.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:28 am to
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You will work long hours but it is great experience. I miss it in a weird way. They are looking for someone they don’t mind spending long hours with, so just try and be yourself and portray someone who is good to work with. In other words, they really hire personalities. They will give you ample training to succeed. Good luck


Thank you. That’s right in my wheel house then, at least I think. I’m sure a lot think that of themselves. I’m knowledgeable and a quick learner, but of course there’s always much to learn. Not afraid of the work, but I do have small children now. I can understand you missing it. I miss the the job I had where I worked the hardest and the most. I accomplished a lot and had great relationships there. I’m hoping that’s what I find here, should I be offered in the process.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:30 am to
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I work for a big 4 in more of a consulting type role. My hours aren't really that bad. Audit, yes, it's horrible, but consulting type stuff isn't outrageous in my experience and many of my college friends and colleagues.


That was my hope. Not afraid of some long hours or a lot of work in general, but long hours as an auditor is a totally different ballgame. I was hoping there would be a decent difference in the long hours.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:58 am to
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but I do have small children now.


Prepare for 70%+ travel
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:50 am to
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Not afraid of the work, but I do have small children now.


That’s what keeps me from considering going back. The culture at those places is very career focused. Just the way it is.

Like Mingo said, consulting is different. But most of the consultants (big 4 and others) I have worked with travel almost exclusively. The hours are what they are but time away from home is just tough to imagine for me.

quote:

Thank you. That’s right in my wheel house then, at least I think. I’m sure a lot think that of themselves. I’m knowledgeable and a quick learner, but of course there’s always much to learn.


I think you will be fine presenting yourself, just make sure you ask what you need to in order to feel comfortable in what you are getting yourself into.


Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:54 am to
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I work for a big 4 in more of a consulting type role. My hours aren't really that bad.


I have seen you say this before and with all due respect, I think your opinion would change if you had a position that 40 hours was the norm.

And like I said above, travel wears you down. Working a 50 hour week but being able to walk home/take a train in a big city is completely different than living out of a hotel regardless of hours. Not sure what your situation is but sounds like you have a decent setup.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:00 pm to
Definitely interested in the travel requirements. Idk how that may vary from location to location. This job is in Columbia,SC so not a major national or international market, but major market in SC. Do you have any insight here, as far as the difference in travel based on firm location?
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Spicy Boy
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:03 pm to
Are you interviewing with PwC's advisory practice or Strategy& (consulting sub of PwC)?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:04 pm to
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And like I said above, travel wears you down. Working a 50 hour week but being able to walk home/take a train in a big city is completely different than living out of a hotel regardless of hours. Not sure what your situation is but sounds like you have a decent setup.


I don't travel. In the last year I've spent 1 week at training and 2 1 week assignments at client sites. Other than that, 100% in the office. It's not like that for everyone and I see he's going to be in Columbia SC so he probably will. In Dallas we have plenty of people that work pretty much exclusively in the metro plex just because there are so many clients, but it does just depend.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:07 pm to
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In Dallas we have plenty of people that work pretty much exclusively in the metro plex just because there are so many clients, but it does just depend.


Yeah that’s what I figured. I wish I would have just done my time in a bigger city I would have stayed longer. Didn’t work for me at the time so oh well.

I miss the people you get to work with. Expense accounts were pretty cool too.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Are you interviewing with PwC's advisory practice or Strategy& (consulting sub of PwC)?


Advisory
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:12 pm to
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Do you have any insight here, as far as the difference in travel based on firm location?


For sure, smaller markets typically equal more travel. They have a tendency to farm you out to other offices based on needs and your capacity.

However some of the consulting/advisory jobs are based on LT contracts that may very well be local. I would certainly ask about they type of projects they have going on. Being an experienced hire, they will likely have more of a plan and take your input more than a staff fresh out of school.

I will say that some travel, like a week every 2 months, would be nice and add variety. But their is hard to find that balance in the B4.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:22 pm to
Gotcha. Thanks for the insight.

I agree on the travel at reasonable intervals. I was fortunate to have some travel at my previous job, bout 3 times a year at maybe 3-4 days at the time. That was pre-children, but this would actually move us into a bigger family support system which certainly takes some of the sting out, IMO.

I’m sort of in the trench between knowing to get where and what I want I’ll end up in roles that will require at least periodic travel, which is refreshing if for nothing but the opportunity to see new places, and being the perfect family man. I love my wife and children greatly, but that also partly drives me towards the goals I’ve always had. Even now, I work generally 10-10.5 hours a day, but I get to come home and I enjoy the weekends. I will make sure to inquire on the plan and requirements on travel.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:25 pm to
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Even now, I work generally 10-10.5 hours a day


I wouldn’t expect them to work you much more than that. I rarely worked more than a 55 hour week but did 50s most of the time
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:35 pm to
Cool with that, especially given the role and career benefits from it.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:37 pm to
Good luck, you won’t regret having it on your resume I can tell you that much.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:51 pm to
Thanks. That’s my understanding too, even if a few years from now it’s something I need to step away from, having PwC on my resume should attract a lot of attention.

Thanks for the advice and info as well as the wishes of luck.
Posted by Spicy Boy
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2016
7 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Advisory


I would say do a good bit of homework on what the group actually does, and more importantly, what exit opportunities will be readily available to you after a couple years with the firm. Unfortunately, most people who work B4 are not looking to stick around for the long haul, so my suggestion would be to evaluate this potential move by evaluating your potential move thereafter.
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