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re: Seattle surpasses Austin as fastest growing big city

Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:30 pm to
I've never been but I'll take your word for it.
Posted by Blastoise
Seattle, WA
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:31 pm to
There's a Bama contingent that watches their CFB games at Belltown Pub. If you find yourself in Seattle on Saturdays, they're a fun bunch.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:33 pm to
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Well, except that really, San Antonio, in terms of character, could also be described as the “suburb without a city.” So it plays both ways in their case. Haha.

I like San Antonio but it definitely has a suburban feel. Honestly my favorite part of Texas is the area between SA and Austin around New Braunfels. It doesn't have the terrain or weather that I'd prefer but I would absolutely be content living there.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:34 pm to
I'll have to check that out.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:55 pm to
The metrics need to be taken together. 100K going to NYC is still more than 90K going to Knoxville unless somehow we devalue humans moving to already large cities.

Percent alone is a misleading statistic.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35525 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 5:06 pm to
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Percent alone is a misleading statistic.

As long as you understand the concept of growth rate it shouldn't be misleading at all. That's why I stressed that it was growth rate in the OP. It's a perfectly valid measurement and so is real population growth. They're just used to show us different things.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 5:08 pm to
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The metrics need to be taken together. 100K going to NYC is still more than 90K going to Knoxville unless somehow we devalue humans moving to already large cities.

Why? Once a city is deemed large the percentages mean more than the actual numbers. NYC could absorb 100k and most people wouldn't notice. It would change a lot of things about daily life in Knoxville.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 5:13 pm to
The successful cities will be those growing inside itself. Suburbs are the past. Too many resources needed to expand out. This will hurt Houston etc in the future. Too much upkeep. As always the cheapest warehouse space is UP ! Same with housing people
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 5:24 pm to
I look at this stuff for work. One thing of note with San Antonio is the city limits are MASSIVE, so its one big arse city with not many suburbs.

Houston and Dallas are the opposite. They are landlocked so they are made up of mostly suburbs.


So when these reports come out, San Antonio can go for miles and miles and still be in the city limit. Its like Jacksonville, FL.

Example:

San Antonio city population- 1.5M, metro pop- 2.5M
Dallas city population- 1.3M, metro pop- 7.4M
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2797 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 5:30 pm to
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look at this stuff for work. One thing of note with San Antonio is the city limits are MASSIVE, so its one big arse city with not many suburbs. Houston and Dallas are the opposite. They are landlocked so they are made up of mostly suburbs. So when these reports come out, San Antonio can go for miles and miles and still be in the city limit. Its like Jacksonville, FL. Example: San Antonio city population- 1.5M, metro pop- 2.5M Dallas city population- 1.3M, metro pop- 7.4M


Houston is the 3rd largest urban city by area in the country behind Jacksonville and OKC
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27811 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 5:37 pm to
I know, im just saying they are landlocked. However big the actual "city limits" are, they cant go further out. With San Antonio, you can.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 5:38 pm to
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The successful cities will be those growing inside itself. Suburbs are the past


Eh, if remote work keeps moving the way it is, and autonomous vehicles deliver, all bets are off.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48757 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:15 pm to
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Eh, if remote work keeps moving the way it is, and autonomous vehicles deliver, all bets are off

I'd happily live in rural Wyoming and work for a Silicon Valley company.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 6:16 pm
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:18 pm to
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Bama contingent that watches their CFB games at Belltown Pub
thanks for the warning
Posted by Blastoise
Seattle, WA
Member since Feb 2010
1783 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:58 pm to
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thanks for the warning






LSU gets together at Ballard Lofts, sometimes we share Belltown Pub with Bama. Check out "Seattle Tigers" on Facbook, there's a pretty good group of LSU fans up here. 40 or so deep.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35525 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 8:01 pm to
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sometimes we share Belltown Pub with Bama

This sounds like a fun time.

And, no, I'm not being sarcastic.

Only problem is paying uber all the way from Tacoma.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Blastoise
Seattle, WA
Member since Feb 2010
1783 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:26 pm to
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This sounds like a fun time.

And, no, I'm not being sarcastic.



It's actually surprisingly cordial - mainly because the most abrasive fans on both sides are often the stupidest, whereas most LSU and Bama fans in Seattle have advanced degrees and aren't morons. It's refreshing.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35525 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 12:43 am to
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It's actually surprisingly cordial - mainly because the most abrasive fans on both sides are often the stupidest, whereas most LSU and Bama fans in Seattle have advanced degrees and aren't morons. It's refreshing.

I've haven't had one unpleasant interaction with any SEC fans here. We're normally just happy to run across each other.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:41 am to
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Eh, if remote work keeps moving the way it is, and autonomous vehicles deliver, all bets are off.


I don’t think that fuels suburban growth though. Suburbs are the worst of both worlds. I think the trends of remote work freedom, autonomous drone delivery, and better and better satellite internet service will fuel RURAL growth. So instead of moving to the half and half life of suburbs, the people who can will just say frick it, bail on the cities completely, and move to the country - lake houses, beach houses, and the mountains.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/26/18 at 5:51 am to
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San Antonio is the city limits are MASSIVE, so its one big arse city with not many suburbs.


Que?

Suburb doesn’t ONLY mean “outside the city limits”.

If you commute a long distance, have deed restrictions, pay dues, have an HOA, live in a community that was all built at one time by the same developer that sits behind a fence with the neighborhood name on it and you have a neighborhood swimming pool that is supported by your dues, that’s a suburb, whether it has been annexed or not.

For instance, Kingwood in Houston was annexed into the city limits but that’s definitely a suburb.
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