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re: Surprise! Donald Trump is terrible at diplomacy. - WaPo - Update: FT Still Right
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:16 pm to FT
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:16 pm to FT
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He said Kim Jong Un loves his people.
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FT still right. Surprise! Donald Trump is terrible at diplomacy.
You have been wrong about everything
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:21 pm to FT
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Donald Trump is terrible at diplomacy.
Yet he just held a summit that no other president in the history of the United States could accomplish, retrieved prisoners, had North and South meet and shake hands and agree to end the longest running war ever, and kweers like yourself think he has no diplomacy.
I dont ridicule you, I sympathize with what you were taught diplomacy is....you had a leader who flew around getting buttfricked by other leaders, and had the news tell you it was great diplomacy
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:26 pm to FT
Surprise! The limp wrist soy boys are wrong again!
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:26 pm to FT
If Trump is terrible a diplomacy, I don’t want to be right.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:29 pm to FT
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FT still right.
Still?
What the hell have you EVER been right about?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:38 pm to SSpaniel
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 6:43 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:54 pm to GeeOH
You need to get that idea out of your heads. Every president could have gotten a meeting with Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Un or Kim Jong Un. Easily.
Trump just did it, easily, by asking nothing of them that they haven’t promised before and reneged on. They’ve always wanted a meeting. Getting them to the table wasn’t the issue. Getting them to do something is. And they haven’t, and we’ve cancelled military exercises.
Trump just did it, easily, by asking nothing of them that they haven’t promised before and reneged on. They’ve always wanted a meeting. Getting them to the table wasn’t the issue. Getting them to do something is. And they haven’t, and we’ve cancelled military exercises.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:57 pm to FT
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and we’ve cancelled military exercises.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:57 pm to DelU249
I didn’t expect the meeting to happen with Mattis and Kelly involved, certainly. I expected him to cancel. He did. He crawled back because the Nobel chants were ringing in his ears and he needed it. I overestimated him.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:58 pm to FT
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Every president could have gotten a meeting with Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Un or Kim Jong Un. Easily.
The rare quadruple down
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:58 pm to FT
Man this thread aged well...
I guess 3 American hostages returned prior to the summit is nothing. Good to see you value American lives.
I guess 3 American hostages returned prior to the summit is nothing. Good to see you value American lives.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:59 pm to FT
quote:fricking beautiful man just beautiful.
He crawled back
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:01 pm to FT
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I expected him to cancel. He did. He crawled back
Full blow delusion
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:03 pm to FT
I really hope you are trolling. Seriously. This is beyond embarrassing for you
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:06 pm to DabosDynasty
Barack Obama got eleven back, and I was pleased we got the hostages back under both.
The problem is that he made a show of it; you don’t make a show of saving hostages or prisoners because it incentivizes taking them. European nations pay ransoms. The US doesn’t. There’s varying arguments there; you save your people when you pay, but at a cost to other people who may be taken prisoner. The US doesn’t, but a US hostage being beheaded on TV or sent back on his deathbed is a win for you if you’re ISIS or North Korea. There’s nuance here, and the way Trump went about this was hamfisted and weak.
Edit for typos.
The problem is that he made a show of it; you don’t make a show of saving hostages or prisoners because it incentivizes taking them. European nations pay ransoms. The US doesn’t. There’s varying arguments there; you save your people when you pay, but at a cost to other people who may be taken prisoner. The US doesn’t, but a US hostage being beheaded on TV or sent back on his deathbed is a win for you if you’re ISIS or North Korea. There’s nuance here, and the way Trump went about this was hamfisted and weak.
Edit for typos.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:08 pm to FT
quote:"I never promised you a rose garden" ffs man at least try.
The problem is that he made a show of it
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:08 pm to FT
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 6:42 am
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:09 pm to FT
quote:You're kidding, right?
you don’t make a show of saving hostages or prisoners because it incentivizes taking them.
You're trying to be funny.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:09 pm to FT
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Barack Obama got eleven back, and I was pleased we got the hostages back under both.
The problem is that he made a show of it; you don’t make a show of saving hostages or prisoners because it incentivizes taking them. European nations pay ransoms. The US doesn’t.
So what do you call the $1.7 Billion that Obama paid to Iran?
Once again..............you fail.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:09 pm to FT
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You need to get that idea out of your heads. Every president could have gotten a meeting with Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Un or Kim Jong Un. Easily.
Trump just did it, easily, by asking nothing of them that they haven’t promised before and reneged on. They’ve always wanted a meeting. Getting them to the table wasn’t the issue. Getting them to do something is. And they haven’t, and we’ve cancelled military exercises.
And I thought Toddy was delusional...
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