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Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:10 pm to FT
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What we did instead:
1) Have a meeting with no preconditions.
2) Cancel military exercises.
3) Legitimize Kim in the eyes of his people, with nothing to show for it. Even the haters and losers are arguing that this is only the beginning. It is the beginning, and we began by giving away very valuable propaganda and military preparedness in exchange for a promise North Korea always gives and has never followed through with.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is real.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:13 pm to FT
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He’s faced with a situation that requires winning a civil war, or at least massive unrest, or capitulation
Here lies the reason your scenario is completely ridiculous. No way they let it get that far. If he saw a civil war brewing and it was being pushed by our heavy handedness, I believe he'd go for broke. And you guys would scream that Trump's "lack of diplomacy" led us to this.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:44 pm to FT
Reading FT is like a case study in insanity.
You have to be so blinded by hatred to act like this.
But oh no we have “legitimized” Kim!!!
You have to be so blinded by hatred to act like this.
But oh no we have “legitimized” Kim!!!
Posted on 6/12/18 at 2:45 pm to indianswim
That’s why you leverage everything you have ahead of time. Don’t isolate a sentence. He needs a trading partner. We can be that if we aren’t running around praising him and doing nothing to cut into their ties with China.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 3:28 pm to FT
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FT
Obligatory: "YOU GOT HIM NOW!!"
Today was an enormous win for the region and the world. Why don't y'all ever just wait a minute... just - a minute to see the outcomes. You always end up falling on your face because you sling crap all over the place without having any actual facts. You're arguing with emotion, and it makes no rational sense.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 4:32 pm to Sev09
I think we called the omnibus ahead of time, and there was no grand strategy there. He just folded.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 4:34 pm to FT
What's next, the New York Times? 
Posted on 6/12/18 at 4:38 pm to FT
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You need to get that idea out of your heads. Every president could have gotten a meeting with Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Un or Kim Jong Un. Easily.
Trump just did it, easily, by asking nothing of them that they haven’t promised before and reneged on. They’ve always wanted a meeting. Getting them to the table wasn’t the issue. Getting them to do something is. And they haven’t, and we’ve cancelled military exercises.
Riiiiiiiight. And how many in the past have shook hands w s Korea and released hostages to the US in a show of faith towards a peace process?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:52 pm to GeeOH
They always release hostages when they need something. This is not new.
Shaking hands afterwards, as I’ve said before, is weak.
Shaking hands afterwards, as I’ve said before, is weak.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:53 pm to FT
I’ve never seen goalposts be moved so much
Bravo
Bravo
Posted on 6/12/18 at 5:56 pm to FT
So in other words, we didn’t really just see the summit we thot we saw? Thanks for the clarification, hell last night I was under the impression it was something big, like Hillary’s thighs, arse, and cankles
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:01 pm to FT
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They always release hostages when they need something. This is not new.
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FT
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:38 pm to FT
Shaking hands meaning between S and N, dumbass
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:40 pm to FT
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Shaking hands afterwards, as I’ve said before, is weak.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:41 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:48 pm to GeeOH
Yeah, Moon has done a good job on diplomacy.
Trump hasn’t.
Trump hasn’t.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:51 pm to FT
Yet Moon has praised the summit
Why are you ignoring the Japanese and SK reactions?
Why are you ignoring the Japanese and SK reactions?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 6:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Yet Moon has praised the summit Why are you ignoring the Japanese and SK reactions?
cmon m8. how many times does he have to post this stuff before you realize hes trolling
Posted on 6/12/18 at 7:01 pm to MF Doom
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this criticism rules because it literally means nothing.
Yep.
They had to think of something. It's hilariously pathetic
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