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My Financial Situation ( Need Advice)

Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:07 am
Posted by rivermonsters87
Member since Apr 2018
76 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:07 am
Age 30
Household Income: 54,000 take home (I live in an area that takes a LARGE tax % and is a very expensive place to live. The average apartment costs 200k)
House worth 380k paid down to 222k (158k Equity) The mortage is 2% because our parents co-signed and have a nice size net worth to back the loan. 15 year mortage with 40,000 coming from a state program with 0% interest
2015 Car Paid Cash
2015 Monthly Payment of 180
Mortgage Payment with utilities/insurance= 1200 per month
Credit card with credit limit of 1800 (No Balance owed, just sits in wallet)
2200 in personal loan
6k in savings
Retirement savings next to nothing.
Paying cash for M.B.A about 450 dollars per month.
No other debts.
Have health insurance on whole family.
Cant get life insurance because I am Bi-Polar (My Bi-Polar has caused some issues in the past but mainly causes me to get very creative in music, video production etc. I was even able to work with 3 Doors Down. The problem is that I tend to obsess about certain things and take huge risks. For example, I have wasted thousands on business ideas that never materialized. I want to obsess about the right things and that is where i need your help. This is the main reason i have not messed with the stock market because i know it is entirely possible for me to put large amounts of money in bad investments.)
Wife has life insurance


Honestly, the whole thing about being declined for life insurance is scary. My question is, "What should i focus on first?" Paying off the house, building retirement, paying off the personal loan, quitting or continue to go to school, build a larger emergency fund?

Thanks for the help!
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 1:22 am
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39943 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 4:01 am to
quote:

What should i focus on first


quote:

paying off the personal loan


and then

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build a larger emergency fund?


and then

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Retirement savings next to nothing



Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20617 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 5:49 am to
Does your wife work? How much does she pull in?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:44 am to
1. Pay the 2200 personal loan off immediately (not sure what payments or interest rate is but you have the cash on hand and it's probably worth it to be rid of it at this point)

2. Build short term savings back up to previous level

3. I would use the money you're no longer using on the personal loan to split between retirement (80%) and expanding short term savings (20%) Once your short term savings cushion is a little bigger I might look into using that portion to pay off the vehicle earlier or if it's a good interest rate probably better to just put it to retirement.

quote:

Paying off the house

You're 30 and in a 15 year mortgage at 2% and have a very healthy amount of equity. Under almost no circumstances would I advise you paying off the house early.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:15 am to
I agree with what others have said but wanted to explain why you should not pay early on the house note.

2% is about the rate of inflation. Because of this alone, your note effectively costs you nothing. So don't pay more than the minimum each month.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:25 am to
quote:

2% is about the rate of inflation. Because of this alone, your note effectively costs you nothing. So don't pay more than the minimum each month.


Right. And the long term damage that would be done by not diverting those funds to retirement accounts would be pretty significant, not even taking tax consequences into account.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37431 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:34 am to
quote:

Household Income: 54,000 take home


So you get checks in your name for $4500 a month or you make $4500 a month before taxes?
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3739 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:51 am to
What should i focus on first


quote:
paying off the personal loan


and then

quote:
build a larger emergency fund?


and then

quote:
Retirement savings next to nothing[/quote]


THIS and never pay more on the house. It's free money at 2% interest when you factor in inflation and deductions.

If you want to begin obsessing on something good, educate yourself on compound interest and broad diversification. When you see how small amounts make a tremendous difference 30-35 years from now, it can be quite motivating.

Obviously health insurance is a concern, but after you finish school your employer should have that covered.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21444 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:56 am to
your set expenses sound too low given the price of your house. Something doesn't sound right to me.

Are you sure this is all of your set monthly expenses? This includes groceries, auto insurance, electricity, gas, sewer, water, etc.?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:57 am to
Quit worrying about the life insurance. If your spouse works now, she will work after you’re dead. Think of building your retirement savings as self-insuring your own life: as those funds aren’t subject to probate, retirement funds pass directly to the named beneficiary upon your death. So find some spare change each month, set up a retirement account, and add to it regularly. Make sure your wife is named as the beneficiary, with your children as contingent.

Make sure you are actually discussing all of these things with your wife. Do not hide any financial issues from her, and make sure you are listening to her views, priorities, interests, etc. (For example, you do not mention saving for kids’ education: she might consider this more important than you do....figure this stuff out with calm conversation.)

—Don’t pay off the house. Just keep paying over time. You’re beating inflation, and you’re not sticking your cash in a non-liquid asset.
—Pay off the personal loan, stat.
—Rebuild your savings as quickly as possible.
—Open a retirement account and direct the funds to very low cost mutual funds. (Vanguard or similar). Pick a target date fund for now. No need to think any more about it, you’re still young. Just let it quietly pile up.

Obsessing over details and inaccurately understanding risk are your Achilles heel—so don’t give into temptation to fiddle in the markets. A direct deduction each month from your bank account into your retirement account means you do not have to look at the details; it will just happen, and you can go obsess about something with much smaller potential downside (like music).

Good luck to you.....
Posted by Oenophile Brah
The Edge of Sanity
Member since Jan 2013
7568 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 11:25 am to
I agree with the prioritization recommendations given so far. I would add that a Roth account may be your best option for a retirement vehicle. The net income you listed would put you in a very low tax bracket. The roth's flexibility appears to be better suited for you situation.

You're in a good situation at this stage of your life. Look into increasing your income. If you family has a relationship with a bank (I'm guessing they do), real estate investing may be worth exploring.
Posted by Sactown
Member since Mar 2018
51 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 2:46 pm to
Hi RM,

Build up your emergency fund until you have over six months of reserves and then focus on other areas. If you put money into loans and retirement it is not liquid and you cannot get at it in an emergency. Also, don't count on selling your home or getting an equity line of credit to cover cash outflow in case of emergencies. Credit and housing markets are not liquid, or not in a way that benefits you, if you need cash during an economic downturn.


Good Luck!
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6692 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 5:11 pm to
You are more likely to get hurt or have some sort of illness than kill you (7x more likely).

So, in addition to the plethora of great advice, I'd look into disability if losing your income while providing for a family is something you are concerned about.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10854 posts
Posted on 5/22/18 at 9:23 pm to
I'm not s financial advisor but I can talk with you about the bipolar illness and how you can protect yourself long term.

It would help you tremendously if you had someone that you trusted to bounce your ideas off of before you jump in with both feet. Bipolar can be a sneaky illness in that it can make you so sure that you are right in the way that you understand situations differently than others. Could your wife do this for you?
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6407 posts
Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:59 am to
if your company matches any contribution by you please take advantage of it
Posted by whatshisface
Westside
Member since Jun 2012
277 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

"What should i focus on first?"


Two words... Blockchaining
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73535 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 3:44 pm to
You need to talk to an independent insurance broker for life insurance, they can put together something for you that would have exclusions such as suicide etc.

Get term life.

You may not think you need it now but if you have kids in 5 or 10 years you’ll be older with more issues and be even more expensive.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73535 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 3:47 pm to
OP should see if employer offers disability, most big companies do and it’s cheap. It’s really gap insurance to cover the difference between what Social Security pays and what your pay was. It’s usually guaranteed acceptance into the employer risk pool.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 3:48 pm
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