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Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread

Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:06 am
Players Under Contract Going into the Offseason:
Jrue Holiday - 4 years/$25.7 mil left
Anthony Davis - 3 years/$23.8 mil left
Nikola Mirotic - 1 year/$12.5 mil left
Solomon Hill - 2 years/$12.2 mil left
Etwaun Moore - 2 years/$8.4 mil left
Alexis Ajinca - 1 year/$4.9 mil left
Darius Miller - 1 year/$2.1 mil left (non-guaranteed)
Chiek Diallo - 1 year/$1.3 mil left
Frank Jackson - 2 years/815k left
Emeka Okafor - 1 year/592k left (non-guaranteed)
DeAndre Liggins - 1 year/588k left (non-guaranteed)

Around $92.8 mil are on the books for the 2018-19 season
NBA projects a $101 mil salary cap
NBA projects a $123 mil luxury tax cap


Important Dates
May 15th
-NBA Draft Lottery

July 1st
-Free Agency Begins
Full List of Free Agents
-Official start of the 2018/19 NBA league year
-Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams
-Restricted free agents can sign an offer sheet
-Teams can begin signing players to rookie scale contracts, minimum salary contracts, and two-way contracts.

quote:

Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 1 minute ago

Sources tell me Elfrid Payton’s one year deal with the Pelicans is worth more than the veteran minimum.

Still don’t have an exact price, but it’s likely to fit under the bi-annual exception (less than $3.5 million).



quote:

@wojespn: Rondo is signing a one-year deal with Lakers, per source.


quote:

@wojespn: Free agent Julius Randle has agreed to a two-year, $18M deal with New Orleans, league sources tell ESPN. Player option second year.




July 6th
-Teams can begin officially signing players, extending players, and completing trades.

July 6th-July 17th
-NBA Summer League

October 2018
-The Pelicans begin their utter decimation of the League
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116993 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:14 am to
To me, this offseason is all about turning shite into shinola.

We have to convert the margins of the roster into useable players that can contribute. Wings that can defend. Multiple ballhandlers. Roster flexibility.

We need to turn Solomon Hill and Alexis Ajinca etc into useful players.

Find a way to bring Rondo back which will be difficult.

We almost certainly re-sign Cousins.


We will not be in on the Paul George's and Kawhi Leonard's of the world (I sincerely hope that's a statement that gets bumped).
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
26054 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:20 am to
just for shits and giggles, if Paul George wants to come here in a S&T, we would have to renounce Cousins, and offer enough back in a trade where our total salary after the trade stayed under the cap, or something slightly over it?

So if PG signs a new 5 year deal worth $30M the first year, then we need to send back around $22M, assuming we aren't keeping Cousins? Solo/Moore/Ajinca

If we wanted to keep Cousins, then we'd need to send back equal trade value to S&T for George? Solo/Niko/Moore

Does that sound right?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63763 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 6:55 pm to
[quote]Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
[/quote]

Could I see the paperwork on that?
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10691 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:15 pm to
I believe AD wants to play with cousins and vice versa. The key is to get rondo back for atleast another year with those 2 and Holliday. I don't care for cousins but you gotta keep AD happy. Moore and milotic are trade bait. The hardest one to get rid of is hill, however if you can trade Moore and the 2nd round for a late first round you can find an athletic sf. Just my thoughts.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12727 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 11:38 am to
Realistically we have to turn Hill/Moore/Ajinca/1st into Not-Solomon-Hill. That’s the move we have available. Unfortunately about the only downside of this team overachieving this year is the devaluing of our first round pick next year to potential trade partners.
Posted by NorthShoreTiger44
Madisonville
Member since Aug 2014
1018 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:01 am to
Looks like it's time to pack it in guys. Golden state is making a "serious" run at AD
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:33 am to
Just an update on a few things as the offseason begins:

There is a growing contingency inside the Pels organization that won't mind if Boogie walks. They have two offers to him on the table and have let it be known that the offers don't get better. And depending on how things go if he chooses to wait and play things out, the offer could get worse.

Rondo also has an offer on the table. But the team is not waiting on them. They have shifted focus to a meeting they have set up at 12:01 on July 1st. Not a big name guy at all, but someone they feel can help.

The general thinking in the organization is that the extensions to Dell and Gentry have given them some room to not just think about next year. Worst case scenario: Both Rondo and Boogie walk and they bring in some hungry guys for a year and they think they can still be a 50 win team with Jrue playing like an All Star and AD playing like an MVP.

Then, you can go into next summer with a ton of room if you can give away Moore and/or attach a pick to Hill. Again, that's the worst case scenario.

The job security for Dell and Gentry is huge because it allows them to be more patient than they have been the last few years. If they can bring Rondo and Boogie back short term at reasonable priced, short deals, cool. If not, you can still be very good and can go all out next summer, selling the opportunity to play with AD and potentially an All Star in Jrue if his playoff performance was a sign of things to come.

I know people will ask two questions, so I will answer here so I don't have to respond:

1. What would I like to see them do?

My dream would be Boogie and Moore to Wiz, Beal to Pels, and J Smith and Ajinca to a 3rd team with cash and 2nds. Then, you use tax payer on Jerami Grant. Bring back Clark and maybe add another vet guard on the minimum.

Jrue-Beal-Hill-Mirotic-AD

Clark-Jackson (or vet) - Miller- Grant - Diallo -Okafor

Yes, Jrue technically goes back to "point guard" but Beal can handle and create. Hill can handle, and you can also run 3 guard lineups with Clark. I love Grant. Probably my favorite free agent in the price category we will spend. Great FT rate, hustles like crazy on both ends. I think he can become respectable from the corners if need be. On-off splits are great. Just love him as a fit. I would love that team, though it would need either Frank Jackson to be respectable or it would need a quality guard to sign for the minimum. Both possible, but unlikely.

2. How do I think this will play out?

Boogie signs either a two year deal or a 1+1 for between 50-58 million. Rondo does a 1+1 for 2 years/8 million. Pels sign Glenn Robinson III or Joe Harris for tax payer. They also sign an American player who is playing overseas, a la Darius last year. They keep Okafor, with the likelihood they cut him before his contract becomes fully guaranteed January 10th. They basically use him while Boogie is rehabbing, then cut him once Boogie is back and playing. They also bring Clark back with a 20% raise.

Rondo-Jrue-Hill-Mirotic-AD

Clark-Moore-Miller-GRIII-Diallo rotation to start the season

Boogie comes back mid season, eats minutes from Diallo, Hill, Mirotic, and Okafor.

Thats all I got and all I know right now. Only other tidbit is that I know who we would have taken if we had the 22nd pick this year. Jacob Evans.

So... when truly evaluating the Mirotic trade down the line, the TRUE cost was: Asik and Evans for Mirotic. NOT Asik and Hutchinson for Mirotic.

Enjoy the offseason everyone!!
This post was edited on 6/29/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5877 posts
Posted on 6/29/18 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Woj: Market for Cousins? Only S&T market & that may not be there. For Cousins, he'll have to show he can come back on a shorter deal. New Orleans will do a short deal. They have a great chance to get him back.


The well is drying up for Boogie
This post was edited on 6/29/18 at 8:01 pm
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:35 pm to
Listening to the latest Zach Lowe podcast, dedicated to the Boogie deal, and within the first 5-10 minutes the Warriors reporter implies this Boogie deal is all actually part of their elaborate scheme to get Anthony Davis next offseason. National guys literally can not talk Pelicans without it turning into a trade Davis conversation.

Lowe even ends up saying, "the Pelicans are doing a very good job of trying to demonize Demarcus Cousins."

Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33372 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:56 pm to
Any doubt Cavs match?
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5877 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:51 am to
quote:

According to Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports, Yogi Ferrell has changed course on his deal with the Dallas Mavericks and will re-enter free agency.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6904 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:50 pm to
Have we had any discussions about Corey Brewer?
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