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Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:06 am
Players Under Contract Going into the Offseason:
Jrue Holiday - 4 years/$25.7 mil left
Anthony Davis - 3 years/$23.8 mil left
Nikola Mirotic - 1 year/$12.5 mil left
Solomon Hill - 2 years/$12.2 mil left
Etwaun Moore - 2 years/$8.4 mil left
Alexis Ajinca - 1 year/$4.9 mil left
Darius Miller - 1 year/$2.1 mil left (non-guaranteed)
Chiek Diallo - 1 year/$1.3 mil left
Frank Jackson - 2 years/815k left
Emeka Okafor - 1 year/592k left (non-guaranteed)
DeAndre Liggins - 1 year/588k left (non-guaranteed)
Around $92.8 mil are on the books for the 2018-19 season
NBA projects a $101 mil salary cap
NBA projects a $123 mil luxury tax cap
Important Dates
May 15th
-NBA Draft Lottery
July 1st
-Free Agency Begins
Full List of Free Agents
-Official start of the 2018/19 NBA league year
-Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams
-Restricted free agents can sign an offer sheet
-Teams can begin signing players to rookie scale contracts, minimum salary contracts, and two-way contracts.
July 6th
-Teams can begin officially signing players, extending players, and completing trades.
July 6th-July 17th
-NBA Summer League
October 2018
-The Pelicans begin their utter decimation of the League
Jrue Holiday - 4 years/$25.7 mil left
Anthony Davis - 3 years/$23.8 mil left
Nikola Mirotic - 1 year/$12.5 mil left
Solomon Hill - 2 years/$12.2 mil left
Etwaun Moore - 2 years/$8.4 mil left
Alexis Ajinca - 1 year/$4.9 mil left
Darius Miller - 1 year/$2.1 mil left (non-guaranteed)
Chiek Diallo - 1 year/$1.3 mil left
Frank Jackson - 2 years/815k left
Emeka Okafor - 1 year/592k left (non-guaranteed)
DeAndre Liggins - 1 year/588k left (non-guaranteed)
Around $92.8 mil are on the books for the 2018-19 season
NBA projects a $101 mil salary cap
NBA projects a $123 mil luxury tax cap
Important Dates
May 15th
-NBA Draft Lottery
July 1st
-Free Agency Begins
Full List of Free Agents
-Official start of the 2018/19 NBA league year
-Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams
-Restricted free agents can sign an offer sheet
-Teams can begin signing players to rookie scale contracts, minimum salary contracts, and two-way contracts.
quote:
Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 1 minute ago
Sources tell me Elfrid Payton’s one year deal with the Pelicans is worth more than the veteran minimum.
Still don’t have an exact price, but it’s likely to fit under the bi-annual exception (less than $3.5 million).
quote:
@wojespn: Rondo is signing a one-year deal with Lakers, per source.
quote:
@wojespn: Free agent Julius Randle has agreed to a two-year, $18M deal with New Orleans, league sources tell ESPN. Player option second year.
July 6th
-Teams can begin officially signing players, extending players, and completing trades.
July 6th-July 17th
-NBA Summer League
October 2018
-The Pelicans begin their utter decimation of the League
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:14 am to DeionDeion
To me, this offseason is all about turning shite into shinola.
We have to convert the margins of the roster into useable players that can contribute. Wings that can defend. Multiple ballhandlers. Roster flexibility.
We need to turn Solomon Hill and Alexis Ajinca etc into useful players.
Find a way to bring Rondo back which will be difficult.
We almost certainly re-sign Cousins.
We will not be in on the Paul George's and Kawhi Leonard's of the world (I sincerely hope that's a statement that gets bumped).
We have to convert the margins of the roster into useable players that can contribute. Wings that can defend. Multiple ballhandlers. Roster flexibility.
We need to turn Solomon Hill and Alexis Ajinca etc into useful players.
Find a way to bring Rondo back which will be difficult.
We almost certainly re-sign Cousins.
We will not be in on the Paul George's and Kawhi Leonard's of the world (I sincerely hope that's a statement that gets bumped).
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:20 am to DeionDeion
just for shits and giggles, if Paul George wants to come here in a S&T, we would have to renounce Cousins, and offer enough back in a trade where our total salary after the trade stayed under the cap, or something slightly over it?
So if PG signs a new 5 year deal worth $30M the first year, then we need to send back around $22M, assuming we aren't keeping Cousins? Solo/Moore/Ajinca
If we wanted to keep Cousins, then we'd need to send back equal trade value to S&T for George? Solo/Niko/Moore
Does that sound right?
So if PG signs a new 5 year deal worth $30M the first year, then we need to send back around $22M, assuming we aren't keeping Cousins? Solo/Moore/Ajinca
If we wanted to keep Cousins, then we'd need to send back equal trade value to S&T for George? Solo/Niko/Moore
Does that sound right?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 6:55 pm to DeionDeion
[quote]Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
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Could I see the paperwork on that?
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Could I see the paperwork on that?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:15 pm to DeionDeion
I believe AD wants to play with cousins and vice versa. The key is to get rondo back for atleast another year with those 2 and Holliday. I don't care for cousins but you gotta keep AD happy. Moore and milotic are trade bait. The hardest one to get rid of is hill, however if you can trade Moore and the 2nd round for a late first round you can find an athletic sf. Just my thoughts.
Posted on 5/10/18 at 11:38 am to DeionDeion
Realistically we have to turn Hill/Moore/Ajinca/1st into Not-Solomon-Hill. That’s the move we have available. Unfortunately about the only downside of this team overachieving this year is the devaluing of our first round pick next year to potential trade partners.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:01 am to DeionDeion
Looks like it's time to pack it in guys. Golden state is making a "serious" run at AD
Posted on 6/29/18 at 10:33 am to DeionDeion
Just an update on a few things as the offseason begins:
There is a growing contingency inside the Pels organization that won't mind if Boogie walks. They have two offers to him on the table and have let it be known that the offers don't get better. And depending on how things go if he chooses to wait and play things out, the offer could get worse.
Rondo also has an offer on the table. But the team is not waiting on them. They have shifted focus to a meeting they have set up at 12:01 on July 1st. Not a big name guy at all, but someone they feel can help.
The general thinking in the organization is that the extensions to Dell and Gentry have given them some room to not just think about next year. Worst case scenario: Both Rondo and Boogie walk and they bring in some hungry guys for a year and they think they can still be a 50 win team with Jrue playing like an All Star and AD playing like an MVP.
Then, you can go into next summer with a ton of room if you can give away Moore and/or attach a pick to Hill. Again, that's the worst case scenario.
The job security for Dell and Gentry is huge because it allows them to be more patient than they have been the last few years. If they can bring Rondo and Boogie back short term at reasonable priced, short deals, cool. If not, you can still be very good and can go all out next summer, selling the opportunity to play with AD and potentially an All Star in Jrue if his playoff performance was a sign of things to come.
I know people will ask two questions, so I will answer here so I don't have to respond:
1. What would I like to see them do?
My dream would be Boogie and Moore to Wiz, Beal to Pels, and J Smith and Ajinca to a 3rd team with cash and 2nds. Then, you use tax payer on Jerami Grant. Bring back Clark and maybe add another vet guard on the minimum.
Jrue-Beal-Hill-Mirotic-AD
Clark-Jackson (or vet) - Miller- Grant - Diallo -Okafor
Yes, Jrue technically goes back to "point guard" but Beal can handle and create. Hill can handle, and you can also run 3 guard lineups with Clark. I love Grant. Probably my favorite free agent in the price category we will spend. Great FT rate, hustles like crazy on both ends. I think he can become respectable from the corners if need be. On-off splits are great. Just love him as a fit. I would love that team, though it would need either Frank Jackson to be respectable or it would need a quality guard to sign for the minimum. Both possible, but unlikely.
2. How do I think this will play out?
Boogie signs either a two year deal or a 1+1 for between 50-58 million. Rondo does a 1+1 for 2 years/8 million. Pels sign Glenn Robinson III or Joe Harris for tax payer. They also sign an American player who is playing overseas, a la Darius last year. They keep Okafor, with the likelihood they cut him before his contract becomes fully guaranteed January 10th. They basically use him while Boogie is rehabbing, then cut him once Boogie is back and playing. They also bring Clark back with a 20% raise.
Rondo-Jrue-Hill-Mirotic-AD
Clark-Moore-Miller-GRIII-Diallo rotation to start the season
Boogie comes back mid season, eats minutes from Diallo, Hill, Mirotic, and Okafor.
Thats all I got and all I know right now. Only other tidbit is that I know who we would have taken if we had the 22nd pick this year. Jacob Evans.
So... when truly evaluating the Mirotic trade down the line, the TRUE cost was: Asik and Evans for Mirotic. NOT Asik and Hutchinson for Mirotic.
Enjoy the offseason everyone!!
There is a growing contingency inside the Pels organization that won't mind if Boogie walks. They have two offers to him on the table and have let it be known that the offers don't get better. And depending on how things go if he chooses to wait and play things out, the offer could get worse.
Rondo also has an offer on the table. But the team is not waiting on them. They have shifted focus to a meeting they have set up at 12:01 on July 1st. Not a big name guy at all, but someone they feel can help.
The general thinking in the organization is that the extensions to Dell and Gentry have given them some room to not just think about next year. Worst case scenario: Both Rondo and Boogie walk and they bring in some hungry guys for a year and they think they can still be a 50 win team with Jrue playing like an All Star and AD playing like an MVP.
Then, you can go into next summer with a ton of room if you can give away Moore and/or attach a pick to Hill. Again, that's the worst case scenario.
The job security for Dell and Gentry is huge because it allows them to be more patient than they have been the last few years. If they can bring Rondo and Boogie back short term at reasonable priced, short deals, cool. If not, you can still be very good and can go all out next summer, selling the opportunity to play with AD and potentially an All Star in Jrue if his playoff performance was a sign of things to come.
I know people will ask two questions, so I will answer here so I don't have to respond:
1. What would I like to see them do?
My dream would be Boogie and Moore to Wiz, Beal to Pels, and J Smith and Ajinca to a 3rd team with cash and 2nds. Then, you use tax payer on Jerami Grant. Bring back Clark and maybe add another vet guard on the minimum.
Jrue-Beal-Hill-Mirotic-AD
Clark-Jackson (or vet) - Miller- Grant - Diallo -Okafor
Yes, Jrue technically goes back to "point guard" but Beal can handle and create. Hill can handle, and you can also run 3 guard lineups with Clark. I love Grant. Probably my favorite free agent in the price category we will spend. Great FT rate, hustles like crazy on both ends. I think he can become respectable from the corners if need be. On-off splits are great. Just love him as a fit. I would love that team, though it would need either Frank Jackson to be respectable or it would need a quality guard to sign for the minimum. Both possible, but unlikely.
2. How do I think this will play out?
Boogie signs either a two year deal or a 1+1 for between 50-58 million. Rondo does a 1+1 for 2 years/8 million. Pels sign Glenn Robinson III or Joe Harris for tax payer. They also sign an American player who is playing overseas, a la Darius last year. They keep Okafor, with the likelihood they cut him before his contract becomes fully guaranteed January 10th. They basically use him while Boogie is rehabbing, then cut him once Boogie is back and playing. They also bring Clark back with a 20% raise.
Rondo-Jrue-Hill-Mirotic-AD
Clark-Moore-Miller-GRIII-Diallo rotation to start the season
Boogie comes back mid season, eats minutes from Diallo, Hill, Mirotic, and Okafor.
Thats all I got and all I know right now. Only other tidbit is that I know who we would have taken if we had the 22nd pick this year. Jacob Evans.
So... when truly evaluating the Mirotic trade down the line, the TRUE cost was: Asik and Evans for Mirotic. NOT Asik and Hutchinson for Mirotic.
Enjoy the offseason everyone!!
This post was edited on 6/29/18 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/29/18 at 8:00 pm to DeionDeion
quote:
Woj: Market for Cousins? Only S&T market & that may not be there. For Cousins, he'll have to show he can come back on a shorter deal. New Orleans will do a short deal. They have a great chance to get him back.
The well is drying up for Boogie
This post was edited on 6/29/18 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 7/3/18 at 5:35 pm to DeionDeion
Listening to the latest Zach Lowe podcast, dedicated to the Boogie deal, and within the first 5-10 minutes the Warriors reporter implies this Boogie deal is all actually part of their elaborate scheme to get Anthony Davis next offseason. National guys literally can not talk Pelicans without it turning into a trade Davis conversation.
Lowe even ends up saying, "the Pelicans are doing a very good job of trying to demonize Demarcus Cousins."
Lowe even ends up saying, "the Pelicans are doing a very good job of trying to demonize Demarcus Cousins."
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:51 am to DeionDeion
quote:
According to Shams Charania of Yahoo Sports, Yogi Ferrell has changed course on his deal with the Dallas Mavericks and will re-enter free agency.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:50 pm to DeionDeion
Have we had any discussions about Corey Brewer?
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