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re: Teacher Salaries in Louisiana
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:35 am to Sao
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:35 am to Sao
I think we all agree that teaching isn't easy and we wish we could pay them more for what they do.
If teachers don't like it though, they can find new jobs if they aren't happy and teachers have some of the best benefits out there.
Also, it's not a secret that the pay sucks. You guys are arguing about my knowledge yet this is about teachers being unhappy with pay.
The main thing ppl are asking is why that raise is justifiable when the system hasn't changed. What has changed that teachers deserve more money or larger bonuses? That was OPs argument.
If teachers don't like it though, they can find new jobs if they aren't happy and teachers have some of the best benefits out there.
Also, it's not a secret that the pay sucks. You guys are arguing about my knowledge yet this is about teachers being unhappy with pay.
The main thing ppl are asking is why that raise is justifiable when the system hasn't changed. What has changed that teachers deserve more money or larger bonuses? That was OPs argument.
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:41 am to cave canem
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Government employees in general trade the instant gratification of higher compensation for certianty of benefits and lifetime employment, quite honestly this is a very wise choice for some.
This cat just wants to have his cake and eat it too.
But hold on. Let's say he lived in Texas.
Do you know teachers in TX contribute to federal SS deduction but can't draw from it upon retirement? Their TRS pension withdrawal is all they have,unless they quit and work 10 quarters outside the teaching profession. Texas doesn't allow both benefits... unless...
You're in ERS. State employee benefit system which is vastly different from TRS. ERS garners both. Whether you're a Senator or highway flag man.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:49 am to Sao
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Do you know teachers in TX contribute to federal SS deduction but can't draw from it upon retirement?
While I have no specific info on the TX system I do not believe what you claim is true.
The state of Texas in no way can disallow you recieving a Federal SS benefit, they may reduce your state pension by the amount of it but they can in no way prevent you from claiming it.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:52 am to cave canem
Yes, it offsets if claimed.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 1:54 am to cave canem
As my Razorback friend implied, dont use me as your teacher, Google will work. Trust me. Federal deduction of social security tax is not provided to teachers. It's a simple research project. Prove me wrong.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:03 am to tduecen
‘educator’
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:24 am to Sao
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Do you know teachers in TX contribute to federal SS deduction
There are only 17 school districts that participate in SS withholding. That is only 1-2% of all the school districts in Texas. The other 98% do not take out SS taxes from teachers pay.
The teachers who had another career and 40 credits earned before becoming a teacher can still withdraw some of their SS benefits but it will be at a reduced rate based on their TSR due to Federal law.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:27 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Before...
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:28 am to Sao
Before what?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:32 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
You're thinking teachers come into an educational career after a 10 quarter SS credit?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:34 am to Sao
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As my Razorback friend implied, dont use me as your teacher, Google will work. Trust me. Federal deduction of social security tax is not provided to teachers. It's a simple research project. Prove me wrong.
This is the exact opposite of what you earlier claimed
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:36 am to Sao
No, my point is telling you that 98% of school districts do not withhold SS taxes from teachers pay. Only 17 (1-2%) school districts participate in some way withholding SS taxes. The vast majority do not.
I will add I was also answering this part of your post.
That's not true. TRS can also claim their SS benefits although at a reduced rate.
I will add I was also answering this part of your post.
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Their TRS pension withdrawal is all they have,unless they quit and work 10 quarters outside the teaching profession. Texas doesn't allow both benefits... unless...
You're in ERS. State employee benefit system which is vastly different from TRS. ERS garners both. Whether you're a Senator or highway flag man.
That's not true. TRS can also claim their SS benefits although at a reduced rate.
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If you have worked other jobs besides being a teacher, you may be eligible to receive Social Security benefits, but you must be qualified to receive them. In order to be qualified, you must have earned 40 “credits”. You are able to earn four credits per year, and earn one credit for every $1,160 you earn (in 2013). Therefore, you have to have earned four credits per year over the course of ten years to be eligible for retirement benefits – there is no partial benefit if you get 20 credits, it’s all or nothing.
So let’s say you retire, receive your TRS pension but you are also eligible for Social Security benefits based on attaining over 40 credits in other employment. You will not be able to collect the full amount of your Social Security as listed on your statement. The Social Security calculator will take into consideration the amount of your TRS pension and then decrease the amount of your Social Security by a factor. You can find the calculator for this here. One thing that is important to note is that WEP cannot completely eliminate your Social Security benefit, but it can reduce it to a very small amount.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 2:46 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:47 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
What?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:48 am to Sao
Laugh but you claimed that Texas teachers contribute to SS and do not get to claim it. Are you referring to while they are teachers, or other employment where they have earned 40 credits?
What do you have questions on?
What do you have questions on?
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 2:50 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:50 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Teachers in TX have SS deducted. Agree?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 2:56 am to Sao
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Teachers in TX have SS deducted. Agree?
I would like to be specific. They do not pay SS deductions from the teaching paychecks from the districts they work for, except the 17 districts I previously mentioned.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 5:18 am to Mingo Was His NameO
You have no idea what it takes to teach and your ignorant comments prove this. I’d love to see you last a day in a Middle School classroom and try to figure out how to plan for and teach a block period with actual instruction that requires depth of knowledge, critical thinking, and writing. Then turn around and grade all the work on your own time. A monkey can turn the knob and watch a gauge at the plant while dreaming of truck nuts for a douche truck. You wouldn’t make it in a classroom. Add in dealing with parents like you who don’t back up teachers and create children with no respect. It takes a special person to raise your kids for you for so little
Posted on 4/28/18 at 5:51 am to tduecen
Oh great another teacher whining about pay. Maybe you shouldn’t have spent 50k on a history degree and work at a job that gets off three months for summer,two weeks Christmas, one week thanksgiving and Easter while also getting off once a month for teacher development days.
I have zero pity for teachers and pay
I have zero pity for teachers and pay
Posted on 4/28/18 at 5:59 am to tduecen
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That can apply to any profession, imagine getting into a profession that does not have a real "raise" but only 100 bucks, most new educators do not know this. Many areas will not explain it which is why teaching has a 4 year burnout rate.
Whoa, hoss. Let's slow down a minute.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 6:22 am to Tigerlaff
$49K average is legit income in LA.
LINK
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Now the average pay for teachers is $49,244 compared to the $50,949 average compiled by the Southern Regional Education Board, according to 2015-16 figures, the latest comparison available.
The national average is $58,064.
LINK
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