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re: Teacher Salaries in Louisiana
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:58 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Teaching at many parishes is the same rate... a parish that was an A last year will still be an A next year due to the teachers they hire....
Do you think this is mutually exclusive to teaching? I've had three people leave my 15 or so person group in the last 6 months, but we are producing at the same rate. I don't bitch about it like a whiny school girl, I see it as opportunity to make an impression and move up faster.
I mean you are a whiny school girl when it comes to anything about teachers
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:58 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
quote:
So you have a thread of people admitting that teachers don't get paid much, but will bitch that our education system sucks. Not only that, but encouraging potentially a good teacher to leave the profession rather than admit we should do more to attract better talent.
Precisely. And those same folks rely on pub ed because in all truth, they know private ed will cost them. It's laughable. We all agree to handing over our prized possession to these so called a-hole teachers 8 hours a day. We may as well hope they're motivated to give a shite.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:58 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
quote:
So you have a thread of people admitting that teachers don't get paid much, but will bitch that our education system sucks. Not only that, but encouraging potentially a good teacher to leave the profession rather than admit we should do more to attract better talent.
Throwing money at the problem won’t work. LA is 26th nationally in per pupil spending but almost dead last in outcome metrics. The issue is shitty parents.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 10:59 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:
If you want some more cash, look around. If you enjoy what you do, it shouldn't be about the money.
This line is pretty familiar with anyone, not a teacher, essentially if you like what you do you should accept the salary and not complain.... 
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:00 pm to East Coast Band
quote:
This is so underestimated by younger people comparing salaries.
Exactly. Retire at 55 with 30 years of service. Make 40k/year in perpetuity. If you live to the average age of 78 or so that's $920,000.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:01 pm to tduecen
quote:
This line is pretty familiar with anyone, not a teacher, essentially if you like what you do you should accept the salary and not complain....
Or...if you feel like your skills are worth more you can use them to get employed elsewhere. Unless no one thinks your skills are worth a raise?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:02 pm to tduecen
quote:
believe what you want, and it is "parish"
Where is the 80% of your final 3 years coming from if your parish is not paying any? You are only putting in 1800 a year.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:03 pm to Sao
quote:
Precisely. And those same folks rely on pub ed because in all truth, they know private ed will cost them. It's laughable. We all agree to handing over our prized possession to these so called a-hole teachers 8 hours a day. We may as well hope they're motivated to give a shite
It's not the money coming in to education, it's how it's spent, but that is another topic for another day. If we could become more efficient with the spending I'd be on board with reallocating some of that money to teacher salaries, but just tossing more money at the problem isn't the answer, in my opinion.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:05 pm to tduecen
I'm not sure if this applies to teachers, but I have friends that worked at a state hospital. They were able to roll their PTO and sick time into their years of service. It is thousands of hrs, so at around 28yrs it equates to 30yrs.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:06 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Actually it comes from a combination of what you have put in vs what your last 3 years are. I just pulled up my teacher's retirement and started reading through it.
Where is the 80% of your final 3 years coming from if your parish is not paying any? You are only putting in 1800 a year.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:07 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
For teachers in this thread I have a question.
I may be way off here, but want to ask.
What does a school receive for each student that is on an IEP?
I volunteer quite often at my son's school and feel like there is a huge amount of kids that are under special education.
Does the school or school district receive anything for this?
Is this common in your schools?
I may be way off here, but want to ask.
What does a school receive for each student that is on an IEP?
I volunteer quite often at my son's school and feel like there is a huge amount of kids that are under special education.
Does the school or school district receive anything for this?
Is this common in your schools?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Hey I agree that is an issue... I've been a big believer that salaries should go
If we could become more efficient with the spending I'd be on board with reallocating some of that money to teacher salaries, but just tossing more money at the problem isn't the answer, in my opinion.
40,000 Teaching Degree
45,000 Specialized Area Teaching Degree
50,000 Master's Teaching Degree
45,500 Special Education Degree
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:09 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:Only the Parish will know that
What does a school receive for each student that is on an IEP?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:10 pm to tigercross
quote:So I should leave a career I've spent money and time on and move to another just because I "may" get paid more instead of getting paid what I'm actually worth.
Or...if you feel like your skills are worth more you can use them to get employed elsewhere. Unless no one thinks your skills are worth a raise?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:10 pm to tduecen
But say would a school benefit by placing kids under special education where they probably shouldn't be on an IEP? (I know IEPs can be for anything, but have a feeling like my district might be doing this for some type of advantage/incentive)
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:13 pm to momentoftruth87
IEP's can be for a lot of things
learning disabilities
attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)
emotional disorders
cognitive challenges
autism
hearing impairment
visual impairment
speech or language impairment
developmental delay
physical disabilities
learning disabilities
attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)
emotional disorders
cognitive challenges
autism
hearing impairment
visual impairment
speech or language impairment
developmental delay
physical disabilities
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:14 pm to tduecen
quote:
So I should leave a career I've spent money and time on and move to another just because I "may" get paid more instead of getting paid what I'm actually worth.
Sunk cost fallacy. If you believe you aren’t getting equitable compensation for what you bring to the table then you absolutely should leave.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
but just tossing more money at the problem isn't the answer, in my opinion.
Well, yeah. We certainly agree. But the underlying issue is that good young college talent isn't going to become a teacher if they see their student loan to career earning potential is capped at a silly year over year increase. Further as surely mentioned, there is no magic teacher pill when part of the issue falls on the home life of the student. Parenting. Environment. I just fall into the camp that reveres teachers as a whole and as people. I couldn't handle it. I praise anyone who can.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:15 pm to tduecen
Okay, do schools benefit by children being on an IEP under special education? That's my question
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:15 pm to tigercross
quote:I guess that goes for police officers, firefighters, nurses, etc... ever profession that may complain about their job
Sunk cost fallacy. If you believe you aren’t getting equitable compensation for what you bring to the table then you absolutely should leave.
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