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Posted on 4/2/18 at 8:13 pm to boxcar willie
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I've seen enough, even in limited play, to know they are good quality backs
good grief brother.
our lead returning back has 46 carries in 3 years.
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I've seen Brosettes burst and power
just about every scholarship rb in the big 6 has burst and power
if you take away the 2016 game against missourri where we ran for 418 yards Brosette has 16 carries for 76 yards against the sec in his career.
i like his size and he does run behind his pads but he isnt proven yet.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:18 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Shite, guys will have to play for both teams at CB. Errbody is a 1!
this spring game they will do 1 vs. 2's
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:26 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Brossette can be a star if he can just hang on the ball. His fumble on the first play vs Troy set an ominous tone for that game.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:35 pm to tarzana
quote:i dont think he can be as good as Jeremy Hill, let alone the last 2 backs we had. i consider those 3 as being star lsu rbs. i guess labeling a player as a star is subjective though.
Brossette can be a star if he can just hang on the ball.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:42 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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just about every scholarship rb in the big 6 has burst and power
of course. And they just about all are big, fast, and strong. But when those adjectives are used they are use in relation to other college players, not to high school players or to the general population.
Just like if you said that a college QB has a strong arm. Just about every college QB has a strong arm but your not going to say that about every college QB.
Just on the few plays that Brossette played you (or at least I) could see he had good burst out of the backfield and ran with good power. that's what impressed me about him.
CEH, even on his limited touches, showed he isn't a little scat back. He also ran with power and was elusive and hard to bring down.
I saw enough to know they are both good SEC level RB's. Not just in relation to high school RBs or the general population of society as a whole.
When Jarvis Landry was at LSU you could say he had 'good hands'. To say that just about all college WR's have good hands is also true if we are talking about in relation to high school players or the general population. But in this case when you are using that adjective people are talking about in relation to other SEC recievers, which is generally just understood. Of course Landry had good hands in relation to NFL WR's as well.
I really don't know why I had to explain that. It seems it would just be understood.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:50 pm to boxcar willie
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saw enough to know they are both good SEC level RB's. Not just in relation to high school RBs or the general population of society as a whole.
no you havent. again take away the the Missouri game where we ran for 418 yards and Brossette has 16 carries for 76 yards against sec competition.
bama= o carries
auburn= 4 carries for 14 yards
florida= 0 carries
south car= 1 carry 6 yards
a&m=6 carries for 25 yards
ole miss= 0 carries
ark= 5 carries 32 yards
He has 0 rushing tds in his entire career against the sec.
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His career receiving yards in the sec is -1 yards.
He has 7 carries in 3 years in the 1st half of a sec game.
youre my boy but in no way have you seen enough to say he is a good sec back.
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When Jarvis Landry was at LSU you could say he had 'good hands'. To say that just about all college WR's have good hands is also true
not all cfb wrs have good hands just like not all cfb wrs run good routes.
and JL had elite hands not just good.
now if you said all sec wrs are athletic it would be the same as saying all sec rbs have burst and power
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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i like his size and he does run behind his pads but he isnt proven yet.
yes that is true also. Players that haven't got a lot of PT are never proven yet. They have to get enough PT before they can be proven. Again that seems to be a given. CEH probably isn't 'proven" yet either. But even in a limited amount of plays you (or at least I) can see some qualities that a player possesses if you watch them closely enough.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:53 pm to boxcar willie
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yes that is true also. Players that haven't got a lot of PT are never proven yet. They have to get enough PT before they can be proven. Again that seems to be a given. CEH probably isn't 'proven" yet either. But even in a limited amount of plays you (or at least I) can see some qualities that a player possesses if you watch them closely enough.
if youre saying he has the athleticism to be a good back i agree. but we havent seen enough of him to say he is a good sec rb.
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But even in a limited amount of plays you (or at least I) can see some qualities that a player possesses if you watch them closely enough.
maybe we arent even arguing the same thing. yes i agree there have been flashes of NB and CH being good rbs. my point is i cant call them good rbs until theyve proven those are more than flashes
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:56 pm to boxcar willie
I think sometimes the problem with evaluating players in mop up time is that you need to take into account the level of talent they're going against and how hard is the other team still playing.
I do agree about CEH. He looks like a great "3rd down back" type of player because of his skill set, but thick enough to be more than that. Just unproven as we've said multiple times.
I do agree about CEH. He looks like a great "3rd down back" type of player because of his skill set, but thick enough to be more than that. Just unproven as we've said multiple times.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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youre my boy but in no way have you seen enough to say he is a good sec back.
no matter how many carries he had I'm going to have to disagree on that. To me, even on one carry, I could see he was coming out the blocks fast and hitting the hole hard. Has he done it 200 times or how ever many he needs to be "proven'? I guess not.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 9:59 pm to TigerLunatik
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think sometimes the problem with evaluating players in mop up time is that you need to take into account the level of talent they're going against and how hard is the other team still playing.
I do agree about CEH. He looks like a great "3rd down back" type of player because of his skill set, but thick enough to be more than that. Just unproven as we've said multiple times.
thats my thoughts as well. both our returning rbs have shown flashes but they arent good rbs until theyve shown that those flashes can be sustained over an entire game. imo anyway.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:01 pm to boxcar willie
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no matter how many carries he had I'm going to have to disagree on that. To me, even on one carry, I could see he was coming out the blocks fast and hitting the hole hard. Has he done it 200 times or how ever many he needs to be "proven'? I guess not.
my point is just about every scholarship rb at a big 6 sec school can show flashes of brilliance. good sec rbs turn those flashes into consistent actions. but hey the term " good sec rb" is subjective. i respect your opinion brother.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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maybe we arent even arguing the same thing. yes i agree there have been flashes of NB and CH being good rbs. my point is i cant call them good rbs until theyve proven those are more than flashes
Ok, agree. They showed flashes of certain traits and yes they need to do it over a much more extended period of time to make any definitive statements. But I did like what I saw of them enough to not be as worried about the RB position as I otherwise might have been.
by the way I appreciate that and no doubt overstated (as I am often apt to do) my original post about CEH and Brossette.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:08 pm to boxcar willie
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Ok, agree. They showed flashes of certain traits and yes they need to do it over a much more extended period of time to make any definitive statements. But I did like what I saw of them enough to not be as worried about the RB position as I otherwise might have been
i actually think we surprise some people this year. Say what you want about Ensminger, outside of redzone Florida and Bama i did like his playcalling in 2016. we have got to start utilizing the middle of the field in the passing game. i think we see the TE in the passing game like late 2007.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:10 pm to boxcar willie
I'm actually more interested in Curry and Provens. Although as a Catholic alum, I'm pulling for CEH.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:12 pm to TigerLunatik
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Although as a Catholic alum, I'm pulling for CEH.
that boy got some wiggle to him
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:14 pm to Rickdaddy4188
And tree trunks for thighs.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 7:41 am to TigerCliff777
I've talked myself into believing that this will be the strength of the offense. We have a passing quarterback and a ton of wide receivers...and possibly an o line with more agility that is suited to pass protect. Cautiously optimistic in Crowley.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 7:48 am to TigerCliff777
eh... I disagree. I'm not expecting this.
I'm in the camp of "pick your battles". I'll explain with an example:
If you 'flip' when you pass but still pass the same amount percent wise, it looks totally different. Such as passing more on 2nd down making 3rd down conversions on the ground because they are short.
I do expect us to push the field more, that's the 'spread concepts', but that does not mean more passing. And if we do spread the field with formations/personnel, I expect us to run more and run the QB more. Which is what most pure spread teams do.
I'm in the camp of "pick your battles". I'll explain with an example:
If you 'flip' when you pass but still pass the same amount percent wise, it looks totally different. Such as passing more on 2nd down making 3rd down conversions on the ground because they are short.
I do expect us to push the field more, that's the 'spread concepts', but that does not mean more passing. And if we do spread the field with formations/personnel, I expect us to run more and run the QB more. Which is what most pure spread teams do.
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