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re: We will feature a offense that will not be run oriented
Posted on 4/3/18 at 7:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 4/3/18 at 7:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
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i dont think he can be as good as Jeremy Hill, let alone the last 2 backs we had. i consider those 3 as being star lsu rbs.
No RB on this roster is as good as Hill, Fournette, or Guice
those 3 are top 10 LSU RBs of all time
But this roster can be as good as Ware, Ford, Hillard, Scott, Hester, Davis, etc and LSU won plenty of games with those RBs
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:24 am to TigerCliff777
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I'm just a fan that expects Steve Ensminger to do what is needed to make this a winning football team. He has some gifted WR's, so get the QB's ready to make it happen.
I don't understand the confidence in Steve E. I'm sorry, I don't see how a guy who hasn't ran an offense in 20+ years is supposed to be good all of a sudden. There's a reason why he was a TE coach and remained one for a decade and a half.
Oh you're going to look at NFL teams that have run successful offenses and then make your offense kinda similar? We haven't been able to throw consistently for the past 10+ years, so let's start off with complicated NFL stuff? What's the point? This isn't the NFL. Yeah, I also heard them say spread, but why not just hire a spread guy that has his own offense? Steve doesn't have an offense, and every time they talk, it sounds like they are just throwing a bunch of shite in the pot and hoping it tastes good.
Now I can see a guy like Brennan being a better passer than Etling. I can see Giles bringing consistency to the WR position as he is more polished and experienced than the others. Also a guy like Marshall stepping up as a freshman, and the other athletes getting better. I can see Curry and Helaire playing well this year (not as good as Guice, Fournette or 2017 Williams though). What I can't see is an offense that will do for them, what, let's say Yurcich at Oklahoma St, or Phil Longo at Ole Miss, will do for them.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:33 am to Midtiger farm
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No RB on this roster is as good as Hill, Fournette, or Guice
those 3 are top 10 LSU RBs of all time
no. guice and hill arent top 3.
Faulk alexander and fournette are top 3.
Hill is a great back but he isnt even top 5.
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But this roster can be as good as Ware, Ford, Hillard, Scott, Hester, Davis, etc and LSU won plenty of games with those RBs
what? there are 4 nfl rbs in that list.
we dont have 4 nfl rbs right now.
none of our current rbs are as good as ware or hester.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:35 am to TigerLunatik
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Why didn't he get any playing time when those guys were hurt though? That's my question.
I would certainly have liked to see Brossette get more touches last season. When it was evident Guice was not 100%, Brossette and CEH should have been utilized more. Also knowing that they would be the 2 vets on the 2018 roster it made sense to get them on the field more.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:55 am to Rickdaddy4188
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no. guice and hill arent top 3. Faulk alexander and fournette are top 3. Hill is a great back but he isnt even top 5.
Hill only played 2 years which hurt his numbers; although his sophomore year he had 1400 yds and 16 TDs and averaged 6.9ypc which is the highest ypc of an LSU back in a 1000+ yd season. He also averaged 6.2 ypc over those 2 seasons, the same that LF averaged over his 3 years at LSU. If he played one more year he would likely be in the conversation as one of LSU's greatest.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 9:58 am to BayouCowboy
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Hill only played 2 years which hurt his numbers;
oh i agree. his 2013 season is one of the best seasons in lsu history. he set the sec single season ypc record( been broken since)
i just cant put him in my top 5 while other rbs have done for more than 1 year.
but top 3 or top 5 players is a subjective issue. what i consider important for naming a top 3 may not be what you you value for your list
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If he played one more year he would likely be in the conversation as one of LSU's greatest.
agreed.
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averaged 6.9ypc which is the highest ypc of an LSU back in a 1000+ yd season.
it was until Guice broke it in 2016 .
1300 yards 7.6 ypc( sec record)
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:09 am to Rickdaddy4188
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guice and hill arent top 3.
Can you read ? He said those 3 are top 10 as in anywhere from 1-10 . Not necessarily the top 3 in LSU history .
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:09 am to Datbayoubengal
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Oh you're going to look at NFL teams that have run successful offenses and then make your offense kinda similar? We haven't been able to throw consistently for the past 10+ years, so let's start off with complicated NFL stuff? What's the point? This isn't the NFL. Yeah, I also heard them say spread, but why not just hire a spread guy that has his own offense? Steve doesn't have an offense, and every time they talk, it sounds like they are just throwing a bunch of shite in the pot and hoping it tastes good.
It's sounds really easy doesn't it? "Oh well we're looking at the Saints and we're going to do what they do." Great, why doesn't everyone do that? Why can't I do that?
It's almost like you need years and years of implementing a particular scheme before you can become a master at it. People thinking E is going to pick up some pointers in an offseason and put together a great offense are dreaming.
SC thinks this, and I suggest to him he should package what he's smoking and sell it, he will become very rich.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:46 am to BayouCowboy
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I would certainly have liked to see Brossette get more touches last season. When it was evident Guice was not 100%, Brossette and CEH should have been utilized more. Also knowing that they would be the 2 vets on the 2018 roster it made sense to get them on the field more.
I will never be able to grasp why this didn't happen. I understand the commitment to the players last year to give them the best chance to win, but there has to be a balance with keeping an eye on the future once your out of the division championship race.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:56 am to Rickdaddy4188
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no. guice and hill arent top 3
I said those 3 were top 10 dumbass. Try some reading comprehension.
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what? there are 4 nfl rbs in that list.
First of all you don't know that
Brossette and CEH have just as much natural ablity as Hester and Scott for sure
Secondly both Ware and Hester played mostly fullback in the NFL and Hester didn't last long and Ware is mediocre.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:45 am to Midtiger farm
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said those 3 were top 10 dumbass. Try some reading comprehension.
i missed that. i apologize.
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First of all you don't know that
Brossette and CEH have just as much natural ablity as Hester and Scott for sure
so where are the other 2 nfl rbs?
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Secondly both Ware and Hester played mostly fullback in the NFL and Hester didn't last long and Ware is mediocre.
ok. there isnt a single rb on this roster that will rush for 960 yards in a nfl season.
ware is better than every back on our roster
Posted on 4/3/18 at 12:13 pm to TigerCliff777
Teams that win feature a running attack usually win , the mostly losers feature passing because they are mostly behind . I am proud that Coach O runs LSU show not this stupid board !
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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so where are the other 2 nfl rbs?
All those backs weren't on the roster at the same time
Hester and Scott played together
Ware, Ford, and Hillard played together
All made a roster but only 1 had any sucess
Brosette, CEH, and Curry were all 4 star backs coming out of HS and you are saying that none of them have any chance to make the NFL?
Posted on 4/3/18 at 1:51 pm to Midtiger farm
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Brosette, CEH, and Curry were all 4 star backs coming out of HS and you are saying that none of them have any chance to make the NFL
if i had to bet on it. none would make an NFL roster. nfl rbs are a dime a dozen.
its subjective. i wasnt saying you didnt have right to your opinion,nor did i say you were stupid for having it. i just disagreed. i apologized for not reading your initial post more clearly. i thought you said they were all top 3.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:00 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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none of our current rbs are as good as ware or hester.
Spencer Ware and his pedestrian 4.2 YPC while at lsu. Lol ok
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Hill is a great back but he isnt even top 5.
wrong
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:05 pm to TigerCliff777
We used to complain about 10 win seasons. I expect 8 wins at the very most this year. Nothing will change.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:07 pm to Lester Earl
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Spencer Ware and his pedestrian 4.2 YPC while at lsu. Lol ok
and who are these current rbs better than Ware?
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wrong
had he stayed he would be.
its subjective anyway.
his 2013 is one of the best ever. in my view that doesnt catapult him into top 5.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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and who are these current rbs better than Ware?
CEH & Brossette are at least AS good. I think CEH can be better
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had he stayed he would be.
its subjective anyway.
his 2013 is one of the best ever. in my view that doent catapult him into top 5.
2nd in SEC History with his 6.9 YPC among all backs that ever carried 200x in a season. Better than Bo, Herschel and anyone else you can think of outside of Nick Chubb
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:10 pm to Lester Earl
LF, Faulk, Alexander, Guice,and Hilliard are my top 5. you can have your top 5 but dont act like this isnt a subjective issue
Posted on 4/3/18 at 2:13 pm to Lester Earl
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CEH & Brossette are at least AS good. I think CEH can be better
based on what? take away Missouri game where we ran for 418 yards and he had 16 carries for 76 yards O tds And -1 recieving yards in sec play.
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2nd in SEC History with his 6.9 YPC among all backs that ever carried 200x in a season. Better than Bo, Herschel and anyone else you can think of outside of Nick Ch
agreed. his 2013 season was one of the greatest season for a rb in lsu history. he was amazing that year. IMO that doesnt catapult him past guys that did it for more than a year. had he gotten the carries i have to no doubt he would/ could be in my top 5.
i dont think youre wrong to have him in your top 5.
i lived the way he ran in 2013. it seems like every week he took one for 50-60 yards. im a huge Hill fan. im in no way knocking him.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 2:16 pm
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