re: Way too early 2018 CFP Predictions- let's have them baws

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How do you know Ohio St or Wisconsin would not have won the playoffs this year? Or Oklahoma St in 2011? Maybe USC and Pete Carroll would have more titles if they were given 2nd chances.

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This is a fun game to play.

How do you know Ohio St or Wisconsin wouldn't have lost by 50 points last year had they been in the playoffs?

Or Oklahoma st in 2011?

Maybe USC and Pete carrol would've had more epic choke jobs if they were given second chances.

And just to continue your absurdity, how do you know any of the other 120+ d1 teams that didn't get selected would not have won the playoffs last year? Or in any other year? Maybe x coach at y school would have more championships if they were given second chances.

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Alabama’s resume last year was pathetic, no other team gets in that finishes 2nd in their division with a best win over a 9-3 team that lost to Troy

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They only have so much control over their resume. It's not their fault Florida state and Lsu turned out to be terrible. But you know, it is possible for the best team in the country to play a shite schedule, and still be the best team in the country.

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So we use resume for some teams but “eyeball” test for others.

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Losing by 40+ points to an unranked team is as "eyeball test" as it gets.

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That pretty much proves my point, they will go out of their way to put Alabama in if they don’t win the SEC.

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If it was the other way around and clemson completely dominated Alabama in the playoff, you might have a point. But they didn't and your point is non existent because Alabama proved to be a correct choice.

Your real point is you're a typical Lsu fan that's obsessed with Alabama.

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Best division in what? The SEC?

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How else could his point possibly be interpreted?

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Their best regular season win was a 9-3 team that lost to Troy. The record of their SEC opponents was 25-38.

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And?

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You completely missed the point,

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I didn't at all. Your point was just completely terrible.

I noticed you completely ignored what I mentioned the real point is, that you're just a typical Lsu fan obsessed with hating Alabama.

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saying Alabama won there fore they deserved to be in is what’s absurd.

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I said Alabama proved they were a correct selection because they proved to be the best team. You keep using this "deserve" word when that is not the standard that has been set and is just as arbitrary as the eyeball test

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If we use “best team” which is just the eyeball test, it’s completely arbitrary. I’m not the one that used that standard

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I know you're not. The committee is. And their decision was vindicated.

If you really cared about this best vs deserved, eyeball test, schedule nonsense, you would be bitching about Ohio st going in 2016 when they didn't win a conference or division title, lost to the team that did win the conference, and got blown out in the playoff, therefore proving they were a poor selection.

But you're not doing that because they're Ohio st, not Alabama. And all you really care about is being obsessed with Alabama.

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This too is an absurd argument

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You keep using this absurd word to describe events that have already happened. Seems like your take on things is what is actually absurd.

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Wisconsin BTW is it their fault the B1G West blows?

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Not at all. But it's funny you didn't feel the need to bring that up when suggesting they deserved a playoff spot instead of Alabama. I wonder why that is. Could it be because the real point here is that you're a typical Lsu fan obsessed with Alabama? I think so.

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That’s irrelevant the point is the schedule was bad If we use subjective data and my contention is no one else would get in with that resume.

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Your contention is incorrect because it happened the previous year. Did you forget this, or just hope everyone else did? I guess it doesn't really matter. Just further proof that the real point here is you're a typical Lsu fan obsessed with Alabama.

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Sure and they should be undefeated and win their division and conference otherwise they didn’t do anything on the field to merit being included in the playoffs

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Where can I find that stipulation on the list of requirements to be selected for the playoffs?

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it just becomes arbitrary

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Unlike which schools you pick and choose to focus your angst towards, right?

Oh, and good luck getting people/media/recruits/whoever to think "arbitrary" when they see those 2011 and 2017 trophies in Alabama's trophy case.

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Their record in bowl games and against ranked teams indicates otherwise.

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Oh, so now it's ok to use hindsight and completed results to determine whether or not a team would've been the correct choice for the playoff/championship game? Tell me, is there any other team besides Alabama that you won't give this benefit to?

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In 2003, 2007 and 2008 they had the same # of loses as at least 1 of the teams in the BCS CG. What kept them out?

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I'm not going back to look at all of the final bcs rankings and results from those years. But I do believe one of the years was when they lost to 40+ underdog Stanford. That alone justified keeping them out that year if everything else was even relatively close to being equal.

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The same standard needs to be applied to every one

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at the irony dripping from that statement, coming from you.

1: Georgia
2: Clemson
3: USC
4: Alabama

Georgia wins National Title

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mizzoubuckeyeiowa

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There's an entire post of yours in this thread that has been responded to, yet you choose one quote from a response to someone else?

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They were 6 out of 7 in BCS games...and the games they won - they blew out their opponent...

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Bcs games? Far as I can tell this thread title says playoff predictions and the entire thread has been about playoff/national championship games. You know, the games that actually matter.

Usc was 1-1* in those games, and will go down in the history books as 0-1.

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And the one game they lost - they lost by 3 points to one of the greatest performances ever from a team averaging 50+ points a game with VY.

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They were deemed the greatest team in the history of college football prior to the game being played, and proceeded to lose the game. Aka, epic choke job.

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In 2008 they lost at Oregon State by 6 points

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Correct, when as the nearly consensus #1 team in the country they were 26 point favorites and couldn't stop a 5'6 150 lb freshman running back from gashing them straight up the middle. Aka, epic choke job.

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and weren't allowed a DO-OVER like Alabama gets every year...like their losses don't count.

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Every year you say? Please list the do-overs Alabama received in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016.

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So instead of facing Florida in the BCS title game instead of Chokelahoma, USC just ended up blowing out Penn State in the Rose Bowl for another BCS blowout win.

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Wake me up when you want to start talking about games that actually matter again.

They don’t play in the B1G east...

Alabama
Clemson
Wisconsin
UW

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You completely missed the point, I didn't at all. Your point was just completely terrible.

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Clearly you do not....

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I said Alabama proved they were a correct selection because they proved to be the best team.

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And their decision was vindicated.

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Ohio st going in 2016 when they didn't win a conference or division title, lost to the team that did win the conference, and got blown out in the playoff, therefore proving they were a poor selection.

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my point is you can’t use the results to justify the selection, that’s circular logic, 20/20 hindsight. We can’t know that when picking the teams
so you can’t use it to justify the selection. Justify the selection on the infonwe had BEFORE the playoffs.

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You keep using this "deserve" word when that is not the standard that has been set and is just as arbitrary as the eyeball test

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Correct, it’s my opinion that the standard should be most deserving rather than best because deserving can be somewhat quantified and applies the same to all. Win your conference or at least division and have the better schedule. There will always be some subjectivity, there’s no way around it in college sports given the # of teams and varying schedules but IMO it’s better than just saying “best” which is generally 100% opinion and is here backed up with 20/20 hindsight. There are many times when the “best” team didn’t win the championship.

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I noticed you completely ignored what I mentioned the real point is, that you're just a typical Lsu fan obsessed with hating Alabama.

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No, that’s just your view as a typical insecure Alabama fan (on display thru out your response re UCS). This is also a cop out as you just dismiss any argument against Alabama but simply saying the non Bama fan is “obsessed” or “jealous” or whatever anything to avoid the actual argument.

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you would be bitching about Ohio st going in 2016

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Well we weren’t talking about Ohio State but no they shouldn’t have been in the CFB playoffs in 2016 because they didn’t win their conference or division, though they did have 3 wins over top 10 teams which is 3 more than 2017 Alabama had.
And if you think it should be “best” teams, who was playing better than USC at the end of 2016? Should they have been in?

ETA: tOSU did not get in the 2015 CFB if we’re going eyeball test or best teams clearly they should have been in, so no they don’t get the same special treatment

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Not at all. But it's funny you didn't feel the need to bring that up when suggesting they deserved a playoff spot instead of Alabama. I wonder why that is. Could it be because the real point here is that you're a typical Lsu fan obsessed with Alabama? I think so.

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Again we see the one with the obsession is you. I never said Wisconsin deserved to be in the playoffs last year imo they did not because they did not win their conference (though unlike Alabama they at least one their division). I just used them as an example since they were in the discussion last and do show (imo) how different teams are given a pass based on their name and the name of their conference without bothering to look at the actual conference schedule or quality of the teams they are actually playing and just the rep.

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Your contention is incorrect because it happened the previous year. Did you forget this, or just hope everyone else did? I guess it doesn't really matter. Just further proof that the real point here is you're a typical Lsu fan obsessed with Alabama.

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Repeating a false assumption multiple times doesn’t make it true. But This also shows you really don’t get the point and just want to whine about someone daring to say Alabama gets special treatment.

If you get past your obsession here I was talking about the SCHEDULE. And while yes 2016 tOSU got into the playoffs (just to be clear I don’t think they should have) without winning their division just like 2017 Alabama the respective schedules were not the same. 16 Ohio State was 3-1 vs top 10 (final playoff rankings) 17 Bama was 0-1. The 16 B1GE was better than the 17 SECW

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Why in God's name would anybody be picking texas? We have no oline, our qb is prolly still concussied. Now our running game should be okay. Defense lost a bunch of people. But our secondary is going to be great for a long time.

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There's talent on that team. There's a good coach at the helm. He's had his time to get his shite together, I think if you keep Sam as your starter and let him get his reps in, you guys will be OK.

It's just a hunch.