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re: Am i the only one that liked Ensminger offense better than Canadas?
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:20 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:20 pm to TigerLunatik
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shouldn't the person have to prove they've evolved at a lesser job before being hired for a job like LSU?
Without a doubt, Ed should have been somewhere like a Houston type program or a lesser teir P5 program like Ole Miss, oh wait...
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Well, except for the whole Mett, Hill, Landry and Beckham thing.
That’s basically the point i was making. On a macro level the offense under Miles was awful and a problem. But on a micro level (games and even a season) it was productive at times. Overall though a big fat F.
For Ensminger all we have since the 90s in micro, a few games where the offense was productive vs some crappy teams. Given the overall offense for damn near a decade under Les was awful, it felt like a breath of fresh air, but my contention is it was fools gold especially when you look at the Alabama and Florida games.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 2:21 pm
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
So what????? You keep finding ways to defend this guy.... I have no idea why it is so important to you... it's creepy in a way....and as I have said before... I would rather still have Miles over what we have now....
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:27 pm to dukke v
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So what????? You keep finding ways to defend this guy.... I have no idea why it is so important to you..
stating facts isnt defending. youre clearly never going to understand this.
if i said February comes after January, am i defending January?
im sorry facts shite on your proven football ignorant opinions.
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it's creepy in a way.
creepy is following around a certain poster and spending 90% of your rant posts on direct responses to that poster.
what kind of shite lsu fan finds positive FACTS ABOUT LSU, creepy?
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I would rather still have Miles over what we have now....
well you did nothing but shite on him for years.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:29 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You have never curb-stomped me at anytime..... you are the one with and issue.... you will go to any length to try to keep Miles in everyone's thoughts.....and if anyone says anything negative about him you sprung into action to come to his rescue.....
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:31 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:37 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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“O is currently on the path Les was towards the end” I don’t even know how you can say that. No path that Miles took in 11 years at LSU lead us to a 30 pt L to state and the embarrassment of losing to SBC team. Trying to equate the two paths is just silly. It took Miles 11 yrs. of games to a OOC and Coach O 5 games. “ it’s better to get a little context” Thanks, I’ll try to remember.
2015, the year before Les was fired he finished the season losing to:
Bama 30-16
Arkansas 31-14
Ole Miss 38-17
The A&M win gave him a little breathing room to hold on longer. So yes, that 3 game stretch was really bad or maybe you forgot. And, again, I am not defending O. Like I said "towards the end".
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:41 pm to TigerLunatik
RB wear down the front and hit play action more, hey that’s what coach O likes to do and ironically that’s exactly what Alabama thrives on stopping
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:45 pm to dukke v
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You have never curb-stomped me at anytime....
like JJ never was a top 5 in the sec in qb rating
like only lsu gets its plays from the sideline
like a high yards per carry number is easier to achieve with more carries
like bowl games dont matter
bowl games do matter if its miles
we should be hapoy with 4 loss season because Vandy and Kentucky would like the record
these are all things that i stomped your drunk face in on. thats just off the top of my head. youre widely regarded as the 2nd dumbest poster on this site.
i wont even get into the glaring issue of you having the reading comprehension skills of a toenail.
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you will go to any length to try to keep Miles in everyone's thoughts.
i rarely bring miles into the discussion.
[qoute]and if anyone says anything negative about him you sprung into action to come to his rescue.[/qoute]
what kind of shite lsu fan has a problem with positive facts about lsu and its coaches? you need help pussy. you arent a lsu. youre an O fan. im sorry your football ignorant opinions get shite on with facts. deal with it.
ive curbed stomped you so much that ive made your entire TD experience into responding to my posts. its literally 99% of your posting.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:46 pm to BayouCowboy
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Bama 30-16
Arkansas 31-14
Ole Miss 38-17
The A&M win gave him a little breathing room to hold on longer. So yes, that 3 game stretch was really bad or maybe you forgot. And, again, I am not defending O. Like I said "towards the end".
so not a single 30 point loss and no losses to a sunbelt team?
even in miles worst years we didnr lose to mid majors and we never lost to a perennial sec doormat by 30
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:47 pm to lsu2006
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I’m a “negative jerk” because I’m skeptical that a 60 year old who held a job and was bad at it 20 years ago will magically be awesome at said job this go around. These are the rules
Orgeron chose Ensminger to successfully install and run a "USC style" type of offense. Orgeron tried to run this exact same offense at Ole Miss and he missed his mark badly.
Our OC that was unsuccessful the last time he ran an offense over 2 decades ago will be running an offense that Orgeron already failed trying to run at Ole Miss.
The concern with the offense is real and all rational LSU fans realize it.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:47 pm to Tiger2424
It is if you only run two different running plays and go routes on play action. There are a lot of different ways to run the ball and use play action off of it.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:49 pm to OPTIMAX CAT
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OPTIMAX CAT
i think i speak for every sane person on this site when i say," post more".
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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so not a single 30 point loss and no losses to a sunbelt team? even in miles worst years we didnr lose to mid majors and we never lost to a perennial sec doormat by 30
Well you missed my post earlier where I stated the Troy loss was obviously worse. You also missed the part where I said Les does not get enough credit for his early success.
For some reason this has turned into a fight of who was "worser" or an attempt to twist my comments into some perceived defense of O.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:56 pm to BayouCowboy
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For some reason this has turned into a fight of who was "worser" or an attempt to twist my comments into some perceived defense of O.
na ive seen your posts. i dont think you were defending O.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:07 pm to OPTIMAX CAT
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Orgeron chose Ensminger to successfully install and run a "USC style" type of offense. Orgeron tried to run this exact same offense at Ole Miss and he missed his mark badly.
It's crazy because he admitted that he forced an offensive philosophy on his first OC at OM, yet he's doing the same thing over again. Learned from his mistakes my arse.
I don't know why he doesn't just run the offense himself.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:35 pm to Goldrush25
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It's crazy because he admitted that he forced an offensive philosophy on his first OC at OM, yet he's doing the same thing over again. Learned from his mistakes my arse. I don't know why he doesn't just run the offense himself
Well you have to hand it to him. He's removed any potential scapegoats so either he succeeds and is hailed a hero or he crashes and burns and the pitch forks and torches come out.
I kind of wish it would be an all or none like this because dragging things out either way is frustrating, but likely we will get results somewhere in between and the debate will rage on between factions.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:29 pm to tigerfan63
Notre Dame definitely liked it better than Canada.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:30 pm to TigerLunatik
I don’t disagree with you there. Personally I like QB’s who can make throws and move the pocket when need be. Making those big LB’s move horizontally gives them trouble. Plus I’d like to see more up tempo also.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 4:58 pm to Tiger2424
I couldn't agree more. Still amazes me that supposedly the Miles offenses practiced way more plays than they ran in games. No telling what they could've done if they had implemented some more throws over the middle of the field off playaction or ran more counters, misdirection and draw plays to keep the linebackers on their heels a bit.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 5:12 pm to tigerfan63
We have lost to Bama over the past 7 years in a row. I consider that an institutional failure as opposed to the guy calling plays on any given Sat.
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