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re: Stephen Hawking's final words to the internet: robots aren't the problem, capitalism is
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:47 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:47 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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I do a lot. I give money to socialist organizations, I pay my taxes, I donate money, I devote time to socialism activism via marches, I am active in my union, protests, organizing, and being political active in the Democratic Party pushing in toward the Left. I do more to help socialism than you do to help capitalism.
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:54 pm to Powerman
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Sounds like a class envy type of question to me. Maybe he no longer needed a job.
Not class envy at all. I just don't care for hypocritical whiners like Hawking.
It doesn't matter if he no longer "needs" a job. He never got off his lazy arse to even look for one. Bernie Sanders in a fancy scooter.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:56 pm to Big_Sur
Good thing he stuck with physics and didn't go into economics.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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His day job was reliant on gubment money but he authored several books that made him wealthy. Capitalism was very good to him
I agree. Thats why he was a hypocrite. I bet he didn't even actually write those books.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 6:57 pm to Big_Sur
Well, that's the end of that.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:19 pm to Big_Sur
I see a lot of panties wadded in this thread. It would seem everyone is missing a key point.
IF robots produced everthing and individuals were not required to work or contribute anything to the economy or society (because it's all done by robots), THEN what he described could be possible.
But as long as a job is required to put food on the table, and as long as the economy rewards hard work, his description is impossible.
IF robots produced everthing and individuals were not required to work or contribute anything to the economy or society (because it's all done by robots), THEN what he described could be possible.
But as long as a job is required to put food on the table, and as long as the economy rewards hard work, his description is impossible.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:21 pm to Big_Sur
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robots aren't the problem, capitalism is
How many books did he write (and profit off of)?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:26 pm to Big_Sur
Did he leave the forwarding address for where we can collect our share of his royalties?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:45 pm to BobBoucher
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But as long as a job is required to put food on the table, and as long as the economy rewards hard work, his description is impossible.
Exactly.
The people who have a vested interest would never allow a "free" society where robots did all the work. Why would they?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:48 pm to Big_Sur
The problem with his theory is that it's incredibly simplistic. Capitalism naturally regulates consumption, supply, and demand. If machines took over every aspect of the economy and all means of production, allowing everyone access to all goods for free, we would rapidly consume and use up all of our natural resources. Quality of life would be great for a short time, then go to shite quickly.
It would also eliminate any type of sentimental value of certain goods such as gifts or luxury items. Plus an entire population not working would not be healthy at all.
It would also eliminate any type of sentimental value of certain goods such as gifts or luxury items. Plus an entire population not working would not be healthy at all.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Hawking is wrong
Wouldn’t be the first time...
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:50 pm to deltaland
Exactly that^.
"Utopia" would be hell in the end. It would be like living in a Liberals world view.
"Utopia" would be hell in the end. It would be like living in a Liberals world view.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 7:55 pm to Big_Sur
So Hawkins utopia was Wall-E? That may have worked for him but no thanks, I’ll pass.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:09 pm to Big_Sur
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:35 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
I don't believe you.
Union. You need a union.
Union. You need a union.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:25 pm to Big_Sur
Real last words were: “Klaatu barada nikto”
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Hawking was wrong ... on a LOT of things.
FIFY
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:06 pm to theunknownknight
quote:what a waste of life. however, greed is a major problem in this world. people who hoard millions and billions of dollars and infinitely selfish and evil.
What a waste of final words
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:13 pm to airfernando
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what a waste of life. however, greed is a major problem in this world. people who hoard millions and billions of dollars and infinitely selfish and evil.
Hawking was just such a person. He enriched himself in capitalist ventures.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:14 pm to Big_Sur
I am more interested in what flavor of Ensure was his last meal.
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