Fat Loss Aid

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CLA
Calcium Pyruvate
Yohimbe Bark
Garcinia Cambogia

It works. It works as a thermogenic, by raising body temperature, which in turn burns calories.

The thermogenic effect is why it was banned from supplements. People would take it, then exercise in the heat and their body temp got cranked out of control from the combination. There were fatalities from that.

It will also accelerate heart rate and respiration (it is a stimulant). That is one reason I would say if you're considering it, DO IT IN A SAFE WAY. It raises body temp and heart rate, so any exercise after should reflect that fact and not compound the effect to dangerous effect.

It works, though. I'll link an article on the medical effects and trials where weight loss was observed (2 LB per month vs placebo).

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Depending on your age and diet, ALCAR or Acetl L-Carnitine. Helps bring fatty acids into cellular mitochondria (burn fat for fuel in the cell).

Reason it depends on age and diet is due to the fact most non-elderly and non-vegans aren't deficient in l-carnitine- but the fact you IF it may help to supplement 300-500 mg once to TID. I'm on keto with IF and ALCAR helped me break plateau! Also has amazing cognitive benefits- mood/clarity/focus!
It's worth a Google or YouTube, I am by no means saying it's a miracle supplement, it just aids in fatty acid metabolism. Get ALCAR vs L-carnitine.

All other supplements are quackery, caffeine helps/thermogenics help but do not provide the miracle fat loss promised.

Do you split that up in two doses or one large dose? Take it pre-workout? Also, do you think it would be beneficial to pair ALCAR/L-Carnitine (what FatMan suggested) with an ECA stack or unnecessary?

Absolutely not. Do not take around exercise at all for two reasons, eca will elevate your heart rate, so when you exercise, it could very easily get into the danger zone.

Another reason is because it's pretty much wasted by doing that. The workout will already have your metabolism raised for a few hours. (Research epoc) so why take a stimulant then?

You break it up into small doses every 3-4 hours. I would suggest the dosing I stated above twice daily to start and not within 2 hours before a workout.

From there you can add a dose and slowly up the dosage. But remember, use the smallest amount that provides results because you will build a tolerance and this will give you room to grow into high doses before having to completely cycle off.

The post above mine is pretty damn spot on also.

Other thing to look at is your workout. Are you causing a huge EPOC effect(think post exercise calorie burn). Is your workout suited for this?

I truely believe a layout similar to the greyskull lci is the best way to make body composition changes.

Lift-one or two lifts done in a progressively heavier manner weekly.

Circuit- 2-5 compound exercises done in a circuit with no rest for 3-5 rounds.

Interval- some type of interval training for a max of 5 min

Aesthetics- any show muscles that you want to hit like side Delta, calf raises and etc.

Fasted walks in the morning.

It's all in the book.

Also restricting carbs to either the morning or in the intra- workout window really helps.

Thanks for all of y’alls help so far, guys! Y’all have been awesome! One last thing. If I were to do an ECA stack, would it be I’ll advised to then also take a pre-workout prior to lifting? Especially if the pre-workout is high in caffeine? I would assume so, just want to clarify.

That’s what I assumed. It would seem like a bit too much caffeine on top of the Ephedrine.

Btw, no need for the aspirin, correct? I realize that’s the A in ECA, but it doesn’t really seem necessary.

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