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re: Obama's CDC study on Firearms.

Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:25 pm to
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every other developed country in the world
they have mass shootings too, cat4
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39754 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:45 pm to
They also have higher frequencies of bombings and mass vehicular deaths.

Time to ban cell phones and cars.

Humans, for the first time in their history, will finally stop killing each other. Hallelujah
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:51 am to
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It's not taking someone's word,

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objectively, we can take his word that he's using proper methodologies and is an honest voice.

Are you drunk?

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he's not making up numbers
Using inane proxies == making up numbers.
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But because you don't like his (valid) conclusions
Nope.

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you try to cast aspersions upon the whole institution.
I've never uttered a negative workd about the institutions. You're making stuff up. Literally.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:54 am to
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You're more likely to be murdered by a firearm than a knife in the US
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more "missing the forest because of the trees."
Intentional. Notice the constant switch between "firearm" and AR-15. If anyone bothered to look at the NCVS they'd know one is ~4x more likely to be killed with a blunt object than any rifle, much less the AR-15 she want's to ban.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:55 am to
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Murders in US very concentrated: 54% of US counties in 2014 had zero murders, 2% of counties have 51% of the murders
Precisely why state-wide data the grabbers like to "analyze" makes zero sense.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:57 am to
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It means exactly what I used it for.
NO.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 12:59 am to
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it's truthful that said weapon was developed solely for military use
What parts of its functionality are solely for military use?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43183 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:43 am to
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I don't carry because I think it's hip


I prefer 'small of the back."
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43183 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 5:44 am to
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colonoscopy


quote:

"OK, Mr. Zach, do you suffer from spousal abuse?"
Me: "Yes."


hmmmmmmmmmmmmm = nttawwt.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73558 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:08 am to
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Do you need a definition?
Still waiting on the questions you ignored.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22871 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:15 am to
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Who the frick needs a 30-round magazine?


I live in a really nice home in a very rural area. Took 20 minutes for police to arrive the one time I called them. If 3 dudes with guns show up to do a home invasion, how many rounds do you feel I should have to defend my family for 20 minutes?
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 6:16 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14076 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 6:59 am to
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If 3 dudes with guns show up to do a home invasion, how many rounds do you feel I should have to defend my family for 20 minutes?


In BamaATL's professional opinion you would need 3-6 rounds. Anything more and "you are just a terrible shot.

BamaATL thinks all bullets are golden bullets and also have heat seeking capabilities.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9853 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:02 am to
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In BamaATL's professional opinion you would need 3-6 rounds. Anything more and "you are just a terrible shot.

BamaATL thinks all bullets are golden bullets and also have heat seeking capabilities.



Unless youre the LAPD.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14076 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 7:03 am to
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Which ones of the following guns should be banned?


Bama never replies to these because he/she knows that he/she doesn't know anything about firearms. If he/she does give an answer it will be picked apart in seconds and it will show his/her true colors.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:13 am to
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Long done. Have your paper finished?


I finish papers all the time. You, however, have yet to produce your analysis. Sad!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:14 am to
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explain to me how you're going to stop bump stocks


Similar to how you stop anyone from legally purchasing something.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:21 am to
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I don't care what Dickey says it was intended to do.


You may want to, since he wrote the amendment.

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The CDC is currently holding the idea that all research into firearms will be viewed as "Gun Control".


Because that's what Republicans have repeatedly told them - they even went so far as to reduce their funding by the exact amount they had spent on gun violence research the year the Dickey amendment was enacted.

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The problem is that Universal Background Checks and Registration go hand in hand. I'm diametrically opposed to registration. Despite your slippery slope accusations, we have very recent examples of places overstepping their bounds after registration was enacted. (New York and California come to mind).


I'm diametrically opposed to not having registration. It's stupid and dangerous. And, if the government wants to target you for your guns, there's easily enough public data to profile/locate the average gun nut. You guys aren't exactly living off the grid. What registration can do is send up a red flag when someone like the Vegas shooter buys a ton of weapons at once, or someone with prior issues has a gun purchase (or someone with an existing gun gets flagged for an issue).

You can't have "an increased focus on mental health" like Republicans are now calling for (to distract from the issue, but still) without having some way to then intervene with those who have mental health issues and firearms.

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You are also opening up millions of gun owners to risk of seizure for things such as pot smoking or using your aunts Vicodin unlawfully.


If you don't break the law, you have nothing to worry about. Isn't that what you guys say every day? Maybe live it for once.

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Most reporting for GVRO's and Red Flag laws is going to come from people closest to the person in question. These people know if they are armed or not registration is not a requirement here.


They might not know that their brother has 5 guns, instead of the 3 they thought he had. If the police come and leave him 2, that's not a very safe situation for the person who triggered the alert.

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There are a multitude of things that could have prevented MSD. The least of which was a 21 year old age limit.


Which is why nobody's saying 'just' do the age limit.

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And what we are all telling you is that there is no difference in an AR and any other semi-automatic rifle.


I disagree, and you've proven to not be honest on this issue in the past, so there is no reason to believe your rhetoric on the matter. The largest firearms sellers in the country believe that there is a difference.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:22 am to
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it is possible he had a fully automatic weapon. as in ILLEGAL.


He had a bump stock.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:23 am to
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Are you drunk?


No, are you? This isn't some random guy off the street, but because you don't like his (valid) conclusions you're trying to pretend that's all he is and his results carry the same conclusions as our local Loch Ness expert. That's ignorant as frick, and you're usually better than that.

Be better than that going forward.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:24 am to
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If anyone bothered to look at the NCVS they'd know one is ~4x more likely to be killed with a blunt object than any rifle


And much more likely to be killed by any firearm than any blunt object, but keep deflecting poorly.
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