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NYT: Editorial on Climate Change and Louisiana

Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:35 am
Posted by 337Tiger19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:35 am
Good read, unless of course you don't believe in climate change, then this is fake news perpetuated by George Sorros or whoever.

NYT Op-Ed

Times-Picayune-NYT Joint Article Mentioned
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 11:39 am
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24648 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:36 am to
Can't wait to see how many actual responses there are that don't contain the word melt in them
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78785 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:37 am to
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Good read
quote:

NYT Op-Ed
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37667 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:39 am to
Climate change is a natural occurrence that can be exacerbated by human activity in specific situations e.g. Louisiana marshland
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22782 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:39 am to
IMO, at it's core, this is far more a sociopolitical and economic problem in Louisiana than an environmental one.

quote:

It does make this reader wonder how the Netherlands has managed to construct 10,000-year flood protection when we don’t seem to have the political will to build effective 1,000-year protection that might buy us some time.


See above, reader.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 11:40 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67296 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 11:41 am to
These editorials are counter-productive because they distract from the real causes of Louisiana’s coastal erosion issues: subsidence and starving of sediment deposition.

If climate change were the issue, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida would all be seeing the same land loss issues, but they’re not. The problem is levees, locks, and dams, not fossil fuels, and focusing on climate change as the cause ensures solutions to the real causes go unaddressed and unfunded.

If sea level rise from global warming is true, there is no hope for the sinking land. There is only abandonment to the ocean.

It’s not true. The problem is subsidence. The solution is rebuilding deltas and marsh, the problem is money, the Jones Act (prevents foreign firms like the dutch from engaging in dredge or fill work), and the Army Corp of Engineers.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119554 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:12 pm to
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subsidence, sea-level rise and erosion


Starting and ending with dates can you please provide the magnitude of each cause listed above. In inches or centimeters would be fine.

TIA.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112783 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 12:49 pm to
I don't believe in climate change.
I don't believe anything the NYT writes.
quote:

KIMBERLY DAVIS REYHER

I don't believe women.

3 strikes. You're out.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5125 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:34 pm to
Tear down the levees and see if in climate change can stop the Miss from creating land.

It sure hasn't stooped the Atchafalya from depositing a bunch of sediment at its mouth and creating more land.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20982 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:05 pm to
Soil erosion is exacerbated by the capture of total suspended solids (turbidity) further upstream in the Miss., and the creation of the levees which prohibit the distrubition of the remaining TSS in the water downstream, which causes the soil to settle.

Together it explains why Louisiana is more prone to flooding.

Neither of which have a modicum to do with global climate change.

I wish the authors and OP knew what they were talking about.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16502 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:09 pm to
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unless of course you don't believe in climate change,


This part is the fake news.

The climate changes, I don't know of anyone that disputes that. Is man powerful enough to change the climate is where the issues are found.

Good try though.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124690 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Good read


How about getting the facts? Can you not do that?
quote:

unless of course you don't believe in climate change, then this is fake news perpetuated by George Sorros or whoever.
Is it that goddamned hard for you to sort through BS, before directing invectives, accusations, and derisives at the other side?

Sea level rise is about 3.2mm/yr.
Three-point-two (3.2) millimeters per year.

Buy yourself a ruler.
Check out how big a measurement 3.2mm actually is.

Then, answer this. Assuming sea level has maintained 3.2mm/yr gains X 50yrs, does the resultant 5.9" rise account for anything approaching land loss being pointed out in Louisiana?

OF COURSE NOT!

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