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Judge Asks Mueller For "Exculpatory Evidence"

Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:22 am
Posted by Lgrnwd
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:22 am
Well this is interesting

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Judge In Flynn Case Asks Mueller For "Exculpatory Evidence"
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:23 am to
That is pretty much the norm, no?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:24 am to
That sound you hear is Mueller's team throwing laptops and files into a shredder.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87667 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:25 am to
quote:

That sound you hear is Mueller's team throwing laptops and files into a shredder.


As well as their whole “case” against Flynn.

I hope Sullivan sanctions them as well.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:26 am to
He does this for every one of his cases.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57225 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:27 am to
After the guilty plea? Really? Or are you making shite up like usual?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29034 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:28 am to
Highly unusual imho speaking as an attorney.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
8434 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:31 am to
quote:

That is pretty much the norm, no?


Months after a guilty plea??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467069 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:31 am to
i am legit curious how often this is made a point in post-plea, pre-sentencing investigations

and Bama, i've handled pleas and sentencing in federal court before and have never seen this. not saying it's impossible that it's standard in other districts, but it's not standard across the board
Posted by TheSearchers
Member since Oct 2017
119 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:46 am to
I agree it’s not usual if the person has already pleaded. But Flynn clearly has cold feet after his plea and is considering trying to ditch it. In that context, I don’t think such an order is unusual.

I doubt they find anything, but Flynn has an affinity for loony-toon conspiracies, so it’s not surprising he’d want his lawyers to investigate further (or that his lawyers would happily accept payment to do so).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:51 am to
quote:

That sound you hear is Mueller's team throwing laptops and files into a shredder.




The cool thing is if Mueller's team destroys evidence Michael Horowitz has the backup. Team Horowitz and his 450 employees moved in more than 2 months prior to Mueller.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103158 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:51 am to
Considering his past cases, there’s a reason why.

This is the judge who presided over the Senator Ted Stevens case and he got PISSED when he found out the US attorney hid exculpatory evidence and pretty much railroaded Stevens.

In other words, he’s gotten burned by the feds before and he is expecting it at this point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467069 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:51 am to
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I doubt they find anything,

yeah i'm not all in, but it's a fun conspiracy theory
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135726 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:55 am to
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He does this for every one of his cases.
Certainly he does this for every one of his cases in which the preceding Judge was removed from the case via forced recusal.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:56 am to
quote:

He does this for every one of his cases.


Dumb@ss



quote:

According to former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell, this is a "huge" development because "prosecutors almost never provide this kind of information to a defendant before he enters a plea — much less after he has done so."
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87667 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 9:56 am to
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But Flynn clearly has cold feet after his plea


OR....

He’s realizing he’s been fricked over.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467069 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:02 am to
that's wrong. Brady applies prior to a plea. there was certainly some discovery done, and part of the duty of a prosecutor is to deliver all Brady material. now, did Meuller know about this prior to the plea? possibly not, which is why there is some area for the theory to take hold
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Considering his past cases, there’s a reason why.

This is the judge who presided over the Senator Ted Stevens case and he got PISSED when he found out the US attorney hid exculpatory evidence and pretty much railroaded Stevens.

In other words, he’s gotten burned by the feds before and he is expecting it at this point.


This looks right based on his Ted Stevens experience. He's got a "standing brady order" link on his webpage:

Judge Emmett Sullivan's Court Web Page
Standing Brady Order

This morning a Wall St. Journal reporter named Del Quinton Wilber tweeted out images of identical orders in other cases Sullivan's presided over. It seems like a boilerplate standing order.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85055 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:11 am to
Honest Bob and his merry band of Dem donor's better hope they didn't hold shite back from the first judge prior to this Judge's arrival.

What are the odds Honest Bob and Weismann did the correct thing?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76964 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:12 am to
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What are the odds Honest Bob and Weismann did the correct thing?


Pretty slim given their histories.
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