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re: Violent video games and desensitization
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:29 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:29 pm to Jjdoc
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We have been using video games for decades to train soldiers. Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox) is one of them.
We don't run kids through an Xbox game and then send them over to fight.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:31 pm to Jjdoc
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We have been using video games for decades to train soldiers. Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox) is one of them.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:32 pm to ThuperThumpin
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So why in a country like Japan that, shares our appetite for violent videogames and media,do we not see these type of massacres?
Could be a number of factors. Certain races have a higher rate of cancer.
But yes... they have had violence.
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The surge in youth violence has sparked calls for a reassessment of the increasingly violent and sexually charged youth culture in Japan, now exported worldwide through animation, comic strips and video games.
The young killer in Sasebo, whose name is being withheld under Japanese law, was an avid fan of "Battle Royale," a popular teen movie turned Internet game in which students kill one another through blood sport. Although the girl is still undergoing psychological evaluation, she is believed to have been set off by a seemingly minor offense: The victim, one of the girl's closest friends, once called her "overweight" and "prissy" on a Web site.
Japan has experienced a rising tide of serious youth crimes, including arson, assault, rape, manslaughter and premeditated murder.
Incidents of violence on school grounds have increased fivefold in Japan
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2001- At 10:15 that morning, 37-year-old former janitor Mamoru Takuma entered the school armed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. He killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:36 pm to Jjdoc
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We have been using video games for decades to train soldiers. Full Spectrum Warrior (Xbox) is one of them.
I watched this movie on Netflix where they invited top gamers to play in a "real life" game. As it turns out, once you were shot you actually experienced the pain. As the movie played out all the players, who projected to be bad asses, showed they were really pussies. This is what I imagine real life to be like. A bunch of video game bad asses are really pussies when it becomes real life and one dude is just mental.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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We don't run kids through an Xbox game and then send them over to fight.
Yes sir..... We do use video games to train. That game I listed was used.
6 Military Video Games Used to Train Troops on the Battlefield
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:43 pm to Centinel
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Centinel
Spacewar! was the first one we used
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:48 pm to uway
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And you’re being willfully obtuse if you don’t think that realistic, violent, murderous role play is a part of what enables these people to go out in real life and act in a way that humans have never acted before
Yea I heard that Jack the Ripper never would’ve killed all of those women had the not learned that behavior from beating up hookers on GTA V. People are violent, always have been, always will be. To act like violent mass murders against innocent people are some new behavior is being willfully obtuse.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:51 pm to LSUgrad08112
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Yea I heard that Jack the Ripper never would’ve killed all of those women had the not learned that behavior from beating up hookers on GTA V. People are violent, always have been, always will be. To act like violent mass murders against innocent people are some new behavior is being willfully obtuse.
You are in part right....... and in part wrong. To ignore the studies and the TESTS ran by our on CIA for decades is to bury your head in the sand.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:52 pm to Jjdoc
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Violent video games and desensitization
I'm not sold on this being the reason for the violence. Every generation has dealt with violence. I think it is an over all moral degradation in society due to parenting issues, religion stepping back a bit, certain societal moral rubicons crossed over, etc...as in there are some thing you just don't do and some places you just don't go, but many of these walls have been broken down into moral relativism. To me, it is a whole package of things that contribute such as all that I mentioned.
I grew up in the 80's and we had some violent games. Back in the day Westerns had all sorts of killing. The family unit was stronger years ago though. Morality was stronger over all...leading me to conclude there is more to this violence than just the violent games and such.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:57 pm to Jjdoc
And to ignore the fact that the CIA has committed numerous declassified atrocities against the American people and regularly manipulates people en masse and probably shouldn’t be trusted is, again, to bury your head in the sand. I no more take the CIA at their word than I would any other violent sociopath who tortures, manipulates, and kills people for fun.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:58 pm to Crimson1st
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I'm not sold on this being the reason for the violence. Every generation has dealt with violence.
We have.
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I think it is an over all moral degradation in society due to parenting issues, religion stepping back a bit, certain societal moral rubicons crossed over
I can agree with that.
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To me, it is a whole package of things that contribute such as all that I mentioned. I grew up in the 80's and we had some violent games. Back in the day Westerns had all sorts of killing. The family unit was stronger years ago though. Morality was stronger over all...leading me to conclude there is more to this violence than just the violent games and such.
However, in the 80s less people were exposed to violent games.
If 1 out of every 1 Million carries a marker for drug addition and only 2 million use, you will have maybe 2 may 3 hooked after a few doses. Multiply that times 300.
I'm not suggesting that it's a lone factor, but I do know it's a larger factor than a gun that is an non animated object.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:00 am to Jjdoc
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Violent video games and desensitization
No. Are do you want to take away guns as well. And rock music.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:02 am to LSUgrad08112
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And to ignore the fact that the CIA has committed numerous declassified atrocities
I don't. I just listed one in this thread.
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probably shouldn’t be trusted is, again, to bury your head in the sand.
No idea what the hell that has to do with what I stated. I stated that due to the declassified information, WE KNOW the research. We know the effects. We know..... And to ignore THAT is to bury your head.
That is the exact point.
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I no more take the CIA at their word than I would any other violent sociopath who tortures, manipulates, and kills people for fun.
Not sure what word you are talking about.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:06 am to Jjdoc
bullshite , games have nothing to do with it. It’s violence in the home that needs to be dealt with.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:14 am to rantfan
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Bull shite ,
No it isn't. In fact games have been studied and some enhance thinking.
However, there is a reason why the Military has been using this tech for 40 years.
An example...Doom II. YEP! We even use them in the treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder. Think that through....
Why ignore studies?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:15 am to Jjdoc
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However, in the 80s less people were exposed to violent games.
I think we agree mostly, but I dunno about this. We had a lot of arcades and a lot of shoot 'em up games and most my peers and I frequented them. But without a doubt your point on guns is valid. Glad we could counter point each other with civility.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:21 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:And despite gun ownership going way up.
Get back to me when violent crime isn't 60% lower than it was before these games were invented.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:21 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Many believe that violent videos are no big deal, but I have always believed it plays a big part with a percentage of people.
I play violent games and I am 38. Certain videos I have seen on liveleak etc stay with my more than a melee attack in COD. I vividly remember a Chechen cutting a Russian soldiers throat and that was probably a decade ago.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 12:23 am
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