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Do you support local law enforcement being compelled to enforce federal law?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:34 pm
Everyone recently has been talking about local law enforcement essentially being forced to enact federal immigration law, but in many ways it goes deeper.
A big example is the DOJ's equitable sharing for civil asset forfeiture, in which the federal govt assumes jurisdiction over a seizure, and cuts the state/local agency making the seizure a check at sale. Aside from the outright theft of this, to me this is a flagrant violation of not only civil rights, but states rights as well.
How can any "small govt conservative" be both in favor of small govt and compulsory enactment of federal law by state law enforcement? States were never meant to do the federal govts bidding.
A big example is the DOJ's equitable sharing for civil asset forfeiture, in which the federal govt assumes jurisdiction over a seizure, and cuts the state/local agency making the seizure a check at sale. Aside from the outright theft of this, to me this is a flagrant violation of not only civil rights, but states rights as well.
How can any "small govt conservative" be both in favor of small govt and compulsory enactment of federal law by state law enforcement? States were never meant to do the federal govts bidding.
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:36 pm to NYNolaguy1
I've pretty much got authoritarian issues all the way around ... but meh, that's just me.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:36 pm to NYNolaguy1
Have you actually read what the Articles of the constitution say about immigration?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:42 pm to NYNolaguy1
So state’s rights until homosexual marriage or abortion, amirite?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:51 pm to NYNolaguy1
Does local government want federal money?
Do states pols push for amnesty of illegals?
Do states pols push for amnesty of illegals?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:08 pm to NYNolaguy1
Well it’s obviously different with things that effect national security, immigration and interstate commerce. But when it’s strictly a local issue I would tend to agree that the Feds tend to overstep their authority.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:10 pm to NYNolaguy1
Not enforcing federal law is one thing.
breaking it on purpose and waving it in the feds face is a whole other thing
breaking it on purpose and waving it in the feds face is a whole other thing
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:14 pm to NYNolaguy1
As a general rule, yes. Obviously there are cicumstances where that wouldn't make a lot of sense.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:41 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:Hmmm...should I support them to break it?...
Do you support local law enforcement being compelled to enforce federal law?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:56 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:Isn't the real question should local law enforcement be held accountable for willful violation of federal law?
Do you support local law enforcement being compelled to enforce federal law?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:40 am to NYNolaguy1
Cooperating with federal law enforcement is not enforcing federal law.
Refusing to cooperate with federal law and allowing criminals to escape justice from the feds is obstruction of justice. There's just no way around it.
Sanctuary cities are a disgrace. Why in the hell would any city openly proclaim that it will harbor fugitives from the law? What good could possibly come of that?
Refusing to cooperate with federal law and allowing criminals to escape justice from the feds is obstruction of justice. There's just no way around it.
Sanctuary cities are a disgrace. Why in the hell would any city openly proclaim that it will harbor fugitives from the law? What good could possibly come of that?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:41 am to NYNolaguy1
yes
only because it allows people to feel the effects of our federal police state in more real terms
only because it allows people to feel the effects of our federal police state in more real terms
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:06 am to NYNolaguy1
So long as the local PD is reimbursed in a timely manner for enforcing federal laws, I do not see a problem. However, once you arrest someone, you become 100% responsible for them. That means 3 meals a day, shelter, and medical care. All that can significantly stress the finances of a small town PD.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:14 pm to NYNolaguy1
If they have to then there should be some kind of task force created to do this and made immune to prosecution by over reaching liberal scum bag politicians. Special training, special incentives, government benefits , special pay etc.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:16 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
How can any "small govt conservative" be both in favor of small govt and compulsory enactment of federal law by state law enforcement?
We evolved. Aint that a favorite term for you proggies?
Rhetorical. We know it is.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:28 pm to NYNolaguy1
So, if Alabama declares that Abe Lincoln was beyond his authority and therefore they re-institute slavery and start selling Tide football players to do yard work in the suburbs for free (with chains and whips and stuff) then you have no problem with that since the federal govt cannot intervene?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:31 pm to NYNolaguy1
Amazing how the OP favors Arizona having to follow federal law and not California. Think that has to do with the fact that the occupant of the white house has changed?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 12:54 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Everyone recently has been talking about local law enforcement essentially being forced to enact federal immigration law, but in many ways it goes deeper.
This is false. The laws are already enacted, and no..they are not being asked to enforce federal laws, they are being required to comply with requests for information on federal criminals.
Completely different acts.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
I support elected leaders of sanctuary cities being put in a federal prison for life.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 1:51 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Do you support local law enforcement being compelled to enforce federal law?
You mean honoring a federal detainer for an inmate that was already booked on local offenses? I have no problem when that when it comes to armed robbery or conspiracy on the federal level or when it comes to an immigration issue and neither should you.
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