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Educated guess: memo will show Obama DOJ and FBI violated fundamental principles of LE.

Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:44 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119032 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:44 am
Disclaimer: I’m not a criminal justice expert however with that said there are what appears two fundamental principles in law enforcement that must be followed to remain constitutional:

1. Law enforcement investigates crimes not people.

2. Order matters. An investigation is initiated because there is evidence that a crime has been committed or about to be committed.

Speculating but I think the memo will show that the Obama DOJ and FBI targeted Donald Trump simply ecause he was/is a political opponent and all the subsequent MUH Russians is simply a ploy to come up with crimes to cover their illegal spying operation on Trump and his campaign team.

That’s it distilled down to its most basic level.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:48 am to
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2. Order matters. An investigation is initiated because there is evidence that a crime has been committed or about to be committed.


This is the problem. According to this FISC Doc, the lied to the FISC to get warrants. They also allowed people like Fusion access to RAW intel gathered via FISA.

So when the law says you have to present facts, they expect facts to be given. They falsified facts to go after Trump.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13012 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:50 am to
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Speculating but I think the memo will show that the Obama DOJ and FBI targeted Donald Trump simply ecause he was/is a political opponent and all the subsequent MUH Russians is simply a ploy to come up with crimes to cover their illegal spying operation on Trump and his campaign team. 


This has been known for the past year to anyone with a functioning brain.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126966 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:52 am to
I hope you are not correct.

As much as I despise Obama and his administration, I really, really don't want the constitutional crisis that will occur if a former President is indicted under criminal law.

Imagine seeing a former President doing a perp-walk and going to jail.

Not only would it be embarrassing for our country, the uproar from his disciples will go on forever.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40484 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:52 am to
Yeah I'm no expert either but creating a phony dossier in order to obtain a warrant to spy on your political opponents just seems fundamentally wrong.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21967 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:23 pm to
memo will show that fusion gps was contracted by the FBI to analyze fish data
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:48 pm to
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1. Law enforcement investigates crimes not people.

2. Order matters. An investigation is initiated because there is evidence that a crime has been committed or about to be committed.



The FBI conducts counterintelligence investigations as well as criminal investigations.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:49 pm to
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Educated guess:

"Educated".....

Hysterical.

Sure, by Fox News.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14233 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:28 pm to
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memo will show

The memo will show what Nunes, a member of the Trump transition team, says that, according to him, is a summary of documents he viewed.
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