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re: It's almost like Canada was good
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:52 pm to Zap Rowsdower
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:52 pm to Zap Rowsdower
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horse bullshite. Outside of Bama we haven’t exactly been lighting the world on fire the past few years.
It wasn't Canada's offense in November, by Canada's own admission.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:55 pm to The First Cut
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It wasn't Canada's offense in November, by Canada's own admission.
I wasn’t talking about the game against Alabama, I was talking about how the SEC outside of Bama hasn’t been much to write home about lately when the response was made that Canada was putting up good offensive numbers in “shitty conferences”
Posted on 1/11/18 at 8:57 pm to Zap Rowsdower
If you think the middle of the SEC is worse of than the middle of the ACC, then you aren't paying any attention to football.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:14 pm to The First Cut
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If you think the middle of the SEC is worse of than the middle of the ACC, then you aren't paying any attention to football.
I just watched the ACC and SEC go 4-6 and 5-6 respectively this bowl season with a middle lying team from each conference beating the other. I also saw the American Conference champ beat the 3rd place SEC Team and a team that the ACC has tried to court in the past to join that in most years would be middle of the road beat LSU. Dude the SEC is top heavy at best right now. Not heads and shoulders above anyone and there’s a lot more parity with other conferences in the middle than there has been in a long time.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:20 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Well, I believe we had as many yards on offense last year as the previous two years combined against Bama
That still does not tell me how 300 yards and 10 points is moving the ball. If I had said that we moved the ball well in 2015 and 2016, then this might be relevant.
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So it might not have been crazy numbers, but it was just a big improvement over the previous couple of years and we missed some open bombs too. Our offense was hopeless against Bama the previous year with basically the same talent.
Is this you admitting that our offense did, in fact, struggle to move the ball this year on Alabama?
I'm also still waiting for the other good defenses we moved the ball well on under Canada.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:25 pm to Tigers0891
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Compare the points of Canada vs Ensminger against Bama and Florida.
See this is the ridiculous logic in the first place that rantards can't seem to grasp. Ensminger didn't install an entirely new offense in the middle of the season when Cam was let go along with Miles. That would have been impossible. All he did was take Cam's playbook and ran some variations from it. If you want to truly compare Ensminger and Canada, maybe let Ensminger have an entire offseason with the team to implement his own system rather than judging how he did running someone else's system to get through the rest of the season.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:27 pm to Zap Rowsdower
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Northern Illinois:
2003: 71.5 378.9 5.3
2011 71.6 476.0 6.6
Indiana:
2007 70.8 393.8 5.6
2008 66.9 348.2 5.2
2009 67.4 365.0 5.4
2010 71.8 387.5 5.4
Wisconsin:
2012 66.1 393.3 5.9
NC State:
2013 78.8 403.5 5.1
2014 68.4 408.5 6.0
2015 73.3 413.3 5.6
I see one good season, his second at Northern Illinois. The rest look like what we've seen for years here
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:28 pm to luciouslou
Fwiw im glad Canada is gone. His offense wouldve been fine with O letting him run it his way. And lets not forget LSUs QB isnt that great so.... missed many w i d e open WRs
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:28 pm to Catman88
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That Wisconsin team played for the big 10 championship too.
with a 7-5 record because OSU and Penn State were on probation. They finished 3rd in their division that year
ETA: not sure why this was down voted. It is simply a fact
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:32 pm to Catman88
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The offense the team and even coaches were still learning?
So that's the excuse the Canada people are going with huh? The Lou Tepper "it takes time to learn my system" excuse
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:34 pm to lsufball19
Not like any of the ACs were his so yes, they were learning on the fly like everyone else.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:38 pm to dbuchanon
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Not like any of the ACs were his so yes, they were learning on the fly like everyone else.
learning on the fly? He was hired in December of 2016. He had 9 months to teach the team and the coaches his offense. If your offense is so complicated that players can;t catch on in 9 months, then it probably isn't the best offense to try to teach to college football players. And the fact of the matter is that he's been an OC for a long time, yet he's had 2 years in his entire career where his offenses weren't hovering right at or well below 400 ypg. We could have let Cam Cameron stay for that type of production. I have no idea if Ensminger will be good or not, but Canada has been very overrated after the fact by our fans. I do no recall seeing any of this type of praise for him until it became apparent that he was parting ways. It is the such reactionary bullshite, but so is our fanbase about everything.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:41 pm to lsufball19
9 months of O saying “Hey lets do this instead.”
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:42 pm to dbuchanon
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9 months of O saying “Hey lets do this instead.”
Then why were his offenses so mediocre in almost every other season he's been OC elsewhere? Was it because coaches just always "meddle" in his offenses or is it because he's not that good?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:46 pm to lsufball19
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I see one good season, his second at Northern Illinois. The rest look like what we've seen for years here
And yet even his worst season was better than anything E ever did as a full time OC.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:50 pm to lsufball19
So Canada’s offenses looked like what we saw from miles for years? You know how I know you don’t know shite about football and concepts kid?
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:50 pm to lsufball19
Pitt was #10 in ppg
NC State - 2014, NC State racked up its highest rushing total since 1977
2015 - Wolfpack averaged 412.8 yards per game -- the fifth-highest average in school history --
Wisconsin 13th ranked rushing offense
Northern Illinois 40ppg avg. and 12 in scoring
Your definition of mediocre is very odd..
NC State - 2014, NC State racked up its highest rushing total since 1977
2015 - Wolfpack averaged 412.8 yards per game -- the fifth-highest average in school history --
Wisconsin 13th ranked rushing offense
Northern Illinois 40ppg avg. and 12 in scoring
Your definition of mediocre is very odd..
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:55 pm to luciouslou
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If you didn't know better, you would think that Canada was good
So...when did Canada's offensive scheme start to suck? Before Orgeron offered him the OC position at LSU, or did he bait and switch Ed and start sucking when he got down south? Neither answer bodes well for Mr. Ed.
Because...it sure SEEMED like everyone was super happy back when Orgeron announced the big hire of his shiny new OC, including Orgeron.
But...now he sucks...and is a dcik, something that's been well known and is the reason he never stays put but was not a reason for Orgeron to pass on hiring him as our OC...but is now a reason to fire him, because...you know...he's a cancer and what not.
You guys are adorable with this shite...
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:57 pm to lsufball19
Canada didn’t compare to Ensminger
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:59 pm to Catman88
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Orgeron admitted to meddling in Canadas offense the Troy game. We got better because Canada went to Alleva and they called a meeting.
I know where you got this narrative from. Fake news is fake
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