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re: Miles worst lingering effects on the program...name them
Posted on 1/13/18 at 10:59 am to Drizzt
Posted on 1/13/18 at 10:59 am to Drizzt
quote:From another post, but relevent answer to yours.
Miles biggest sin was he just sucked all the joy out of LSU football with his steady de-evolution to 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
quote:Another fact I'll add is Miles last 5 years, touted as cause for firing him, has a better W/L record than any 5 year stretch of any other LSU coach.
#1 Win%
#1 NC trophies (tie)
#1 NC appearances
#1 SEC titles (tie)
#1 SECW titles (tie)
#1,2,3 in PPG
#1,2,4,5 Scoring
#1,2,3,4 Offensive TDs
Plenty more in '17 Media guide (I've never seen any of the legacies you mention )
LSU traded this in for 10-25.
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Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:10 am to Mayhawman
Miles biggest failure was letting Saban back in the SEC as the Alabama coach. He should have sabotaged that and LSU fans would feel completely different about him.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:11 am to Drizzt
quote:Wow I actually feel sorry for people who feel like this. Y'all must be miserable constantly.....
It was embarrassing to wear anything with LSU on it his last 3-4 years. I think that frustration is why you have fans losing their minds over O and not giving anyone new staff a chance.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:23 am to tduecen
It would’ve been great had miles retired and we hired Saban
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:24 am to Topwater Trout
But then we wouldn't have your boy O.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:25 am to AFTiger7
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Spoiled self righteous fans
This, and it's not even close. He made 10 wins not good enough, and yet have to bash him at every turn
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:26 am to lsufball19
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Well it may have helped for Les to have signed one in 2016
You can't be serious. Signed 4 in 15 and 2 in 17.
Yet most of you complain about signing too many skill players.
This post was edited on 1/13/18 at 11:31 am
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:26 am to Topwater Trout
quote:Saban wasn't coming back to LSU, no matter how much LSU fans want it to be.
It would’ve been great had miles retired and we hired Saban
Had he stayed LSU would not have had the success that Alabama is now having, he needed to NFL to humble him again and to get rid of the itch of wanting to go to the NFL. He came back more focused and knew where he belonged.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:29 am to tduecen
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Saban wasn't coming back to LSU, no matter how much LSU fans want it to be.
Had he stayed LSU would not have had the success that Alabama is now having, he needed to NFL to humble him again and to get rid of the itch of wanting to go to the NFL. He came back more focused and knew where he belonged.
This and LSU fans and boosters are not willing to give the money to the program that bama is. You can say you would, but you wouldn't
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:32 am to dukke v
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AND the QB position.....
Every QB on this team committed to play for Miles. Ed O still has Zero.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:33 am to 1609tiger
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thus no QB recruiting a
Well then I guess we will be in perpetual suck because Ed Orgeron hasn't recruited any either.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:41 am to the LSUSaint
Recruiting in the trenches and QB
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:44 am to LNCHBOX
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Bringing O here and letting O oust him.
There were a lot of ranters that wanted Miles to hire O
Posted on 1/13/18 at 11:44 am to DaBike
Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:08 pm to tduecen
quote:Yep, I really wanted him to do well and hated seeing him flounder with the Fins.
Miles biggest failure was letting Saban back in the SEC as the Alabama coach.
Even though I figured he'd return to CFB, I had no idea he'd go to Bama and cause LSU years of grief.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:11 pm to Mayhawman
Goes to show just how good of a coach Miles was at LSU. His biggest failure is that he could not be as good as the greatest college football coach in history.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:13 pm to the LSUSaint
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Miles worst lingering effects on the program
Creating a conservative culture on offense. ie "Can't throw the ball into windows because you might throw an INT."
Seems like this mindset has infected O. It's not that we've had great QBs, but if you don't allow them to sling it, they will never effectively utilize the windows between the hashes. Essentially it limits your offense to running the ball or throwing outside the hashes or deep making teams with a good front 7 virtually impossible to consistently sustain drives against.
Since Mettenberger OBJ and Juice left, I can't remember a game where we had an effective intermediate passing attack between the hashes.
This post was edited on 1/13/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:13 pm to LSUStar
I think losing Perriloux did him in. That kid wad going to be very good at LSU. Gunner Kiel didn't do him any favors either.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:14 pm to Mo Jeaux
LSU fans will never appreciate Miles for what he did because of what Saban did at Alabama. The Alabama envy among LSU fans is really laughable at this point.
Les got stale his last two years but what he did prior to that was freaking amazing and he deserves that recognition.
Les got stale his last two years but what he did prior to that was freaking amazing and he deserves that recognition.
Posted on 1/13/18 at 12:20 pm to tduecen
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Les got stale his last two years but what he did prior to that was freaking amazing and he deserves that recognition.
I agree. He was a fantastic coach that only lost his edge with Cam Cameron leading to the lack of an effective passing attack. But If Perriloux panned out, Les Miles may have challenged Bama during the foundational years of Saban's dynasty, and the climate of college football may have been different. Oh well, Look ahead and get better.
This post was edited on 1/13/18 at 12:34 pm
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